***The opinions expressed in this chat are not necessarily those of The Other*Worlds*Cafe or America Online.*** OnlineHost: TTPMuscoy has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: Hello, host! HOST EBK Chip: Good evening. :) OnlineHost: OWC Helio has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: LOL. Please...call me Chip. HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Helio! TTPMuscoy: So is this where it's happen? HOST EBK Chip: 'Tis indeed. :) OWC Helio: Hallo TTPMuscoy: Hello, everybody. OWC Helio: Your assistant is here :) HOST EBK Chip: Helio has kindly offered to help me with the queue tonight. TTPMuscoy: Will my screen name be TTPMuscoy? OnlineHost: E cat s has entered the room. OWC Helio: Hi Mr. Powers :) HOST EBK Chip: Oh...not if you don't want it to be... TTPMuscoy: Hi, Helio! OWC Helio: Great to have you. HOST EBK Chip: You'll need to sign off and sign back on using the HOST EBK Chip: "Guest" account. Let me e-mail you with instructions... OWC Helio: Say something, E :) TTPMuscoy: Okay. E cat s: Hi, guys :) TTPMuscoy: How many people do you anticipate? TTPMuscoy: Hi, E! OWC Helio: Plentiful, we hope :) E cat s: Hi :) ! HOST EBK Chip: You should have it now. :) TTPMuscoy: Host, yes - will it take just a minute to do it? HOST EBK Chip: Yup. :) TTPMuscoy: Chip, I mean. TTPMuscoy: Okay, see you again real quick. HOST EBK Chip: Just sign off and back on. OnlineHost: TTPMuscoy has left the room. E cat s: Was that Powers?? HOST EBK Chip: Yup. OWC Helio: Where is he typing from? HOST EBK Chip: He's going to be using another name for the chat. HOST EBK Chip: California, Helio. HOST EBK Chip: In fact, I'll probably delete this bit from the log, so his E cat s: I thought the room would crowd up fast. HOST EBK Chip: "secret" SN doesn't get out far and wide. HOST EBK Chip: Yup. That's why I wandered in early. OWC Helio: But *we* know, Chip :) E cat s: Sorry I didn't say something cool.... HOST EBK Chip: You're sworn to secrecy. ;) E cat s: Secrecy it is. HOST EBK Chip: Helio, thanks again for agreeing to handle the queue for me. OnlineHost: TTPMuscoy has entered the room. OWC Helio: Any time, Chip. OnlineHost: BLR WIZ has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: Well, i don't see "guest." I guess it's no harm if I'm TTPMuscoy. HOST EBK Chip: That's strange. It's not in your listbox? BLR WIZ: Hi Chip, TTP, Helio, E OWC Helio: Maybe lower down on listbox. TTPMuscoy: Chip, didn't see any "guest " thing there, no~ HOST EBK Chip: That's...really weird. OnlineHost: Athanor IX has entered the room. OnlineHost: El Dorobo has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: If you want to give it another shot, we'll be happy to wait; but it's up to you. :) TTPMuscoy: Nah, it's okay. HOST EBK Chip: LOL. Hokay. :) HOST EBK Chip: Well, it's about that time, so we can start in... HOST EBK Chip: Folks, we're pleased to welcome Tim Powers as our guest tonight. HOST EBK Chip: Tim Powers is the author of numerous works of dark HOST EBK Chip: fantasy and SF, including THE ANUBIS GATES, ON HOST EBK Chip: STRANGER TIDES, THE STRESS OF HER REGARD, HOST EBK Chip: LAST CALL, and EXPIRATION DATE. He has been HOST EBK Chip: nominated for the Nebula and received the Apollo Prix, HOST EBK Chip: the World Fantasy Award, and the Philip K. Dick HOST EBK Chip: Memorial Award. HOST EBK Chip: :::whew::: TTPMuscoy: You type fast! HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL. It's a macro. OWC Helio: <---- finger on mouse OWC Helio: Fire away :) HOST EBK Chip: Folks, you were IM'd as you entered with the rules for HOST EBK Chip: Protocol. Feel free to ? or ! at will. :) El Dorobo: ? HOST EBK Chip: Go for it, El. El Dorobo: what was your fav work TTPMuscoy: El, I think LAST CALL is my favorite. Either that, or this new one due in January. TTPMuscoy: Which is called DECLARE. TTPMuscoy: It's about spies and genies. El Dorobo: cool TTPMuscoy: I hope! HOST EBK Chip: LOL OnlineHost: T83BIRD has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: With every one, I think "THIS is the one that'll make me rich!" HOST EBK Chip: LOL. We do our part. :) T83BIRD: Hi, all. TTPMuscoy: Chip, bless your heart! HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL TTPMuscoy: Bird, hi! HOST EBK Chip: I have a question, myself... OWC Helio: We'll be buying books by Tim Powers, aren't we folks :) TTPMuscoy: I owe everybody a drink. BLR WIZ: yep HOST EBK Chip: One thing I've enjoyed about several of your books are HOST EBK Chip: the "journal entries" and scraps of poetry at the HOST EBK Chip: beginnings of chapters.... HOST EBK Chip: How do you manage to locate such wonderfully relevant HOST EBK Chip: stuff? (Oh, and are the journal entries genuine?) OnlineHost: Seraph23 has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: Yes, they're genuine! I just read everything, looking for those odd-sounding bits. OnlineHost: Seraph23 has left the room. OnlineHost: Seraph23 has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: And I love arranging them as if to imply huge secret things going on. TTPMuscoy: They're a little out of coutext, though, generally - don't tell anyone. OnlineHost: Db earthy2 has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: Our lips are sealed. :) TTPMuscoy: Cool. HOST EBK Chip: Folks, if you have a question or comment for Mr. Seraph23: (are we on protocol?) HOST EBK Chip: Powers, please type a ? or ! on the HOST EBK Chip: screen. We're keeping a queue and I'll cue you when it's HOST EBK Chip: your turn. HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, Ser. Seraph23: ! & ? OWC Helio: go, Ser :) Seraph23: Oh excellent.... first a comment... Seraph23: Tim, you're brilliant. TTPMuscoy: Ser, nice of you to say! Seraph23: First rate author, honored to be here. Seraph23: Now, a question... if I may? HOST EBK Chip: Hit it, Ser. TTPMuscoy: Seraph, bless your heart too. OnlineHost: PrfsorFate has entered the room. T83BIRD: ? Seraph23: Alrighty. In "Expiration date" there's a scene regarding a former tenant of Sol and Johanna Seraph23: they're remarking on how he always over acted to situations.. OnlineHost: Db earthy2 has left the room. Seraph23: and they make fun of him with the remark: OWC Helio: ? T83BIRD Seraph23: I Heard a noise...shovelled dirt into your mailbox.." OWC Helio: Add that to Queue TTPMuscoy: Seraph, yes, I recall! Seraph23: Tim, if you recall that..... Seraph23: Okay... the question is: Seraph23: Was that based on a real occurence, or are you a true genius and made Seraph23: up oneof the funneist scenes in abook ever? TTPMuscoy: Seraph, I'm not a true genius. That was a real neighbor of ours! Seraph23: Good lord TTPMuscoy: There's a lot of autobiography in these things! Athanor IX: ? Seraph23: Amazing .... next OWC Helio: Queue: ? T83BIRD ? Athanor T83BIRD: Tim, your fiction has been called a bit *dark.* Care to comment? TTPMuscoy: T8, that always puzzles me! I think my books are real funny! TTPMuscoy: And they generally have happy endings. I mean, the bad guys get punched in the nose, HOST EBK Chip: ! OnlineHost: PrfsorFate has left the room. OnlineHost: TAMirabile has entered the room. Seraph23: ? TTPMuscoy: and the good people wind up getting married or something! T83BIRD: Thanks, TIM. OWC Helio: Queue: ! Chip ? Seraph HOST EBK Chip: I do want to comment that I appreciate you actually HOST EBK Chip: wrapping up things at the end. I hate books that leave HOST EBK Chip: you hangin'. :) OWC Helio: Ath? TTPMuscoy: Chip, me too. I like to get a whole book, for my money. El Dorobo: ? Athanor IX: Do you have any story ideas involving William Blake? TTPMuscoy: Athanor, funny you should ask! The one I'm working on now involves him! OnlineHost: Shadowjakk has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: Or at least his weirder poetry. Athanor IX: Excellent. OWC Helio: Queue: ? Seraph ? El Dorobo TTPMuscoy: Not that any of his poetry isn't weird! HOST EBK Chip: ? OWC Helio: Go Ser Seraph23: Tim, you incorporate so many real people/places/companies in your work do you get permission Seraph23: or do you simply tempt fate? TTPMuscoy: Well -- I guess I tempt fate! OnlineHost: AnoniMommy has entered the room. Seraph23: (thinking of the wine companies) TTPMuscoy: I figure people like Bugsy Siegel are fair game. OWC Helio: queue: ? El Dorobo ? Chip OnlineHost: AnoniMommy has left the room. TTPMuscoy: Ah, well I think I'm always flattering about the wine companies! TTPMuscoy: They should look at it as free ads. OWC Helio: queue: ? El Dorobo Athanor IX: ? (two-part) Seraph23: Truly... I've bought a few since they appeared in your books. El Dorobo: ok is there a plan for a new series in the future TTPMuscoy: Seraph, see? And I hope you liked 'em! TTPMuscoy: El, not at the moment. I'd love to add onto the Last Call crowd, but OWC Helio: Queue: ? Athanor TTPMuscoy: the editors would prefer stand-alones, in spite of what you hear. T83BIRD: ? Athanor IX: "The Twelve Hours of the Night" from Anubis Gates, was that by you or James Blaylock? Athanor IX: and...where might one read more of your poetry? TTPMuscoy: We both wrote that! Over a lot of beers at a Long Beach bar. TTPMuscoy: Actually, Subterranean Press wants to publish a bunch of Ashbless! El Dorobo: ? Athanor IX: ! TTPMuscoy: It seems over-ambitious. A lot of it is pretty incoherent. Shadowjakk: ? HOST EBK Chip: Helio, what's the queue looking like? OWC Helio: Queue: ! Athanor ? T83BIRD ? El Dorobo ? Shadowjakk OnlineHost: Carol8117 has entered the room. Athanor IX: I'd buy one... OnlineHost: SciFiDog has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: Athanor, if you do, I'll draw pictures in it for you. It might make more sense that way. TTPMuscoy: Ashbless's stuff often doesn't make much sense unaided. Seraph23: ? OWC Helio: T is next? TTPMuscoy: Hello, T! T83BIRD: Have any other SF or Fantasy writers influenced your work? HOST EBK Chip: Go for it, T8. TTPMuscoy: T, yes - Leiber, mainly! And Lovecraft a good deal. And a lot of non-SF people too, like TTPMuscoy: Kingsley Amis and John D MacDonald. T83BIRD: Thanks. TTPMuscoy: But Fritz Leiber is my hero. OnlineHost: El Dorobo has left the room. OWC Helio: Guess Shadow is next :) TTPMuscoy: Athanor, I wasn't implying you need illustrations to read! It's just that Ashbless is TTPMuscoy: impenetrable. Shadowjakk: You've worked your way up the timeline, from the 18th, Shadowjakk: 19th, and mid-20th centuries until you stand in Shadowjakk: contemporary California in your most recent work. Shadowjakk: You're now on the threshold of the future. Is there any Shadowjakk: desire, on your part, to revisit mainstream science Shadowjakk: fiction? (such as Deviant's palace and Forsake the OnlineHost: El Dorobo has entered the room. Shadowjakk: Sky) OnlineHost: Hypatia141 has entered the room. El Dorobo: ?(sorry I got booted) TTPMuscoy: Well, not right away! My newest one is retro, takes place in 1963! TTPMuscoy: I would like to write a real future thing, though. TTPMuscoy: Like orbiting colonies, stuff like that. OWC Helio: queue: ? El Dorobo ? Seraph El Dorobo: who do you feel was the best writer as you were growing up TTPMuscoy: Oh, Heinlein was the one I read most. And Sturgeon. OnlineHost: Hypatia141 has left the room. TTPMuscoy: I still re-read most of Heinlein about once a year! El Dorobo: no lovecraft? TTPMuscoy: Oh, Lovecraft too, sure! He scared the daylights out of me in 8th grade! TTPMuscoy: Yes, I've always loved HPL. If I had a time-machine, he's one I'd visit! HOST EBK Chip: ? OWC Helio: You're next, Ser Seraph23: (Since Shadow unknowingly stole my Deviant question) How do you prepare, research-wise for TTPMuscoy: Last October we looked at several of HPL's houses. Stole some ivy. Seraph23: writing? Or is it all Athenea from the head of Zeus stuff? TTPMuscoy: Seraph, I spend about a year - or more! - just doing research. TTPMuscoy: I don't even know what my plot or TTPMuscoy: characters are going to be, before I read about a hundred books! TTPMuscoy: And then I outline the daylights out of a story before I start. Big calendars! Seraph23: How do you know which books to read then? TTPMuscoy: Seraph, good question! At first I don't, and I'm reading almost totally at random! OnlineHost: Magic Ekim has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: And then I see a direction, and start to read up on that - with random stuff too, still. TTPMuscoy: Hugely wasteful process! OnlineHost: Magic Ekim has left the room. Seraph23: ! TTPMuscoy: This new one started from reading a John LeCare intro to a spy book. OnlineHost: El Dorobo has left the room. OWC Helio: Queue: ! Seraph ? Chip T83BIRD: ? OnlineHost: El Dorobo has entered the room. Seraph23: Re: "hugely wasteful" - I respectfully disagree, my wife and I both feel "full" after Seraph23: reading your work... always comment "My god, what breadth!" TTPMuscoy: Seraph, good of you to say! Tell your wife we owe you both a dinner! Seraph23: Deal! TTPMuscoy: A book does occupy a couple of years. I just live in the damn thing. OnlineHost: Carol8117 has left the room. TTPMuscoy: Like a shed in the yard, it feels like. Seraph23: ? Shadowjakk: ? OWC Helio: Queue: ? Chip ? T83BIRD ? Seraph ? Shadowjakk HOST EBK Chip: You've mentioned your newest work a couple of times HOST EBK Chip: this evening. Want to give us any more details? Or do HOST EBK Chip: we have to just wait for its release? :) TTPMuscoy: Chip, it involves British and Soviet spies, messing around Mount Ararat. TTPMuscoy: It turns out the Russians were aware of genies since the late 19th century. TTPMuscoy: And our hero is a British agent, who has to undo it all. TTPMuscoy: It was fun to do a John LeCarre-style thing! TTPMuscoy: And every detail is accruate! I swear! HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL TTPMuscoy: Honest! TTPMuscoy: "accurate," that is. BLR WIZ: Alien Invasion..... Later. OnlineHost: BLR WIZ has left the room. TTPMuscoy: Good Lord. OWC Helio: Nite, BLR HOST EBK Chip: Doncha hate it when aliens invade? TTPMuscoy: "Alien invasion"? Maybe we should take precautions. OWC Helio: T is next, right? HOST EBK Chip: Yup. OWC Helio: Go, T. T83BIRD: What is your view on our chances of deep space exploration in the forseeable future? TTPMuscoy: Gee - I'd love to see it, but people don't seem to see why it's worth the bucks. TTPMuscoy: Jerry Pournelle has a lot of good cheap ideas - I hope NASA listens to him! TTPMuscoy: I'd love to visit a bar on the moon, like in Heinlein's "Columbus Was a Dope." T83BIRD: Point taken. Thanks. HOST EBK Chip: You're up, Ser. Seraph23: Your ghosts eat glass candy & stones - was there a real-world inspiration for that? TTPMuscoy: Yes! In voodoo, ghosts always want those things. It struck me as very TTPMuscoy: symptomatic, tells us a lot about them - childish and short-attention-span! In New Orleans TTPMuscoy: once, we saw Marie Laveau's tomb, and it had cigarettes and candies on a ledge, and TTPMuscoy: the cigarettes had all been lit and then put out, and the candies had all been TTPMuscoy: bitten -- as if she needed you to START them for her! Seraph23: Like my elderly aunt. TTPMuscoy: I do love the idea that ghosts worry about such things! TTPMuscoy: Seraph, you have to bite candies for her? Seraph23: No, light her ciggs... open her beer. Seraph23: Arthritis TTPMuscoy: Well, that's good of you! TTPMuscoy: I hope somebody does that for me one day! Seraph23: :) next HOST EBK Chip: Shadow? Shadowjakk: Are there any fictional non-Ashbless collaborations with Shadowjakk: Jim Blaylock on the horizon? I see him getting a bit Shadowjakk: darker in his recent work, and you turning more Shadowjakk: contemporary. It reminds me of detente. :) Seraph23: ? TTPMuscoy: We aren't planning it, but it's always a possibility. We could sure have some fun with it! OWC Helio: ? TTPMuscoy: We wanted him to be Kesey's bus-driver, when Neal Cassady got too tired to drive. Shadowjakk: LOL TTPMuscoy: That could be profound! OWC Helio: Queue: ? Ser ? Helio Seraph23: Every author is at least one character in their novels.. who are you? TTPMuscoy: Ummm ... I guess I'm Scott Crane! But I don't want it to get around. Seraph23: Ha! TTPMuscoy: I did give him my truck. TTPMuscoy: I've still got the truck, in fact. Seraph23: For sale? TTPMuscoy: Not yet -- I could only get about $200 for it, I think, and then I could only afford a TTPMuscoy: bicycle. Seraph23: That's what E-bay's for. TTPMuscoy: We did drive it to Las Vegas, though! My wife insisted. Seraph23: (next) T83BIRD: ? TTPMuscoy: "If your characters drive it, we should." OWC Helio: There is voodoo, ghosts, spies and genies in your works. OWC Helio: Do you use a blend of SF/horror/fantasy? Shadowjakk: LOL TTPMuscoy: Yes - I try to write "hard fantasy" - not disregard any physics. Like, TTPMuscoy: I'd never have an invisible man who could see by visible light, cause he wouldn't stop any. TTPMuscoy: And I'm real careful about things like levitation. TTPMuscoy: I mean, Einstein would be skeptical! OWC Helio: LOL Shadowjakk: A "soft" fantasist would have used Aleister Crowley instead of Edison. :) TTPMuscoy: I am real grateful for Asimov's non-fiction! HOST EBK Chip: LOL TTPMuscoy: Shadow, right, good point! OWC Helio: LOL OWC Helio: You're next, T. T83BIRD: Have you considered doing TV or film scripts? TTPMuscoy: No - I'm convinced they're separate skills, and the people who write them grew up wanting OnlineHost: Hypatia141 has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: to write 'em, as I grew up wanting to write books. I don't think the TTPMuscoy: skills would carry across! T83BIRD: Understood. Thanks. OWC Helio: WB, Hypatia. Seraph23: ? TTPMuscoy: I do hope OTHER people write screenplays of my stuff! TTPMuscoy: And pay the option to do it, of course! Hypatia141: thanks Helio T83BIRD: I hope so too, TIM. OWC Helio: Next :) HOST EBK Chip: Ser. :) Seraph23: Okay, a gun question ... your characters are often armed.. and sometimes use them.. Seraph23: and sometimes they don't.... Seraph23: where do you stand on them? TTPMuscoy: Um ... I'm pro-2nd Amendment. Seraph23: Now that's unexpected TTPMuscoy: Well, it doesn't make me a nut, I swear. TTPMuscoy: Trust me. HOST EBK Chip: LOL. If it does, you're not the only one. :) Seraph23: I asked... because sometimes you have some of your characters have Seraph23: very strong *negative* reactions to them.. Seraph23: must be a California thing. TTPMuscoy: Yes, like Angelica! Well, I do sympathize. Seraph23: Exactly who I was thinking of. El Dorobo: ? TTPMuscoy: Angelica, in Expiration Date, that is. Right. TTPMuscoy: Sometimes an author has no idea what his real themes are! HOST EBK Chip: LOL TTPMuscoy: Maybe I'm subconsciously anti-gun. Shadowjakk: That's what critics are for. :) HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL TTPMuscoy: Exactly. OWC Helio: LOL SciFiDog: ! Seraph23: (next) HOST EBK Chip: Go, Sci. TTPMuscoy: When I'm seventy, I'll hire one to tell me what my themes were. SciFiDog: well regulated militia! Seraph23: (ya skipped El) Shadowjakk: You'd be better advised to have Bugsy do a tarot reading. :) TTPMuscoy: Sci, yes? Do go on! SciFiDog: according to the 2nd A. pro/anti is a misunderstanding... HOST EBK Chip: Comments override questions, Ser. OWC Helio: ! takes precedence :) TTPMuscoy: Shadow, you're right. Athanor IX: ! Seraph23: Oh, didn't know Seraph23: ! then HOST EBK Chip: Ath? OWC Helio: Make that a "!", El! Athanor IX: Militia in the 18th C US context meant the entire body of the citizenry, and 'regulated" Athanor IX: meant adjusted to function properly...as a clock is regulated. SciFiDog: ! HOST EBK Chip: Folks, could we save the second amendment argument for after the interview? :) Shadowjakk: More like a "Glock" is regulated. :) Athanor IX: If the hoplophobes will drop it... Shadowjakk: Agreed. HOST EBK Chip: Shadow. :/ Seraph23: Didn't mean to start a gun debate .. just wondering at motivation! HOST EBK Chip: El, what was your question? :) TTPMuscoy: Athanor, we can pick it up later! El Dorobo: what is your take on the popular scifi fantasy books that pass as writing thesedays TTPMuscoy: Athanor, trust me, I'm not a nut. TTPMuscoy: El, honestly, I don't read a lot of it! My reading in the field kind of TTPMuscoy: stopped in about '75. El Dorobo: lol HOST EBK Chip: ? TTPMuscoy: Some of it does look pretty dreadful, I gotta say. OWC Helio: Queue: ! Seraph ! SciFiDog ? Chip Seraph23: (take mine out of the queue...) OWC Helio: Drawing a line through Ser :) HOST EBK Chip: Sci? Seraph23: ? OnlineHost: Dziadsj has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: Seraph, did you lose your place? OWC Helio: Go, Sci! Seraph23: Voluntarily OnlineHost: SciFiDog has left the room. OWC Helio: Oops HOST EBK Chip: She went. Shadowjakk: ? OnlineHost: Phx8 has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: I think I'm next in line... Seraph23: Yep HOST EBK Chip: I was somewhat startled...you don't read SF/Fantasy? What fiction do you read? OWC Helio: Queue: ? Chip ? Seraph ? Shadowjakk TTPMuscoy: I mainly read .. Tom Wolfe, Amis, MacDonald ... more mainstream, really. T83BIRD: ? TTPMuscoy: I mean, I do read books by my friends - Blaylock, KJ Fowler, Lisa Goldstein. TTPMuscoy: Gibson, Sterling. HOST EBK Chip: Ser? Seraph23: Tim... sorta surprised Philip K. Dick hasn't come up in your lists tonight.... Seraph23: influence or not? TTPMuscoy: I think Dick might be the best writer the field has produced, but I don't see a lot of TTPMuscoy: influence from him on my own stuff. I think he was a big influence on me personally, though Seraph23: ! TTPMuscoy: Maybe not a good one! OWC Helio: You're next, Ser! Seraph23: Tim, I'll let the cat out of the OWC bag... we sorta have a love/hate relationship with him Seraph23: here too. TTPMuscoy: He wrote some great stuff! And you should have known him! Amazing guy. OWC Helio: Shadow is next :) TTPMuscoy: I could tell you stories that would turn your hair white! OWC Helio: Wow Seraph23: Undoubtedly (next) Shadowjakk: Who was the Lamia in your life? I mean, generally, we Shadowjakk: all have one, but you portrayed her particularly vividly. :) TTPMuscoy: Gee - I really think it would be like Cabell's "Ettarre," a kind of archetype, rather TTPMuscoy: than any literal person. An aggregate, maybe! OnlineHost: Dziadsj has left the room. TTPMuscoy: Scary lady, I gotta say. Shadowjakk: Stress reminded me a bit of Cabell. TTPMuscoy: Good! I do love Cabell too. TTPMuscoy: You and I are two of the probably six people who have read him. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Shadowjakk: Ballantine reprints in the 70s. :) TTPMuscoy: Yes, those were very handy! OWC Helio: T, you're next. Athanor IX: I want to read Cabell...I've just never seen his books anywhere. T83BIRD: How do you and Blaylock go about collaborating? TTPMuscoy: I wite a few pages, then he rips 'em up and re-writes 'em, then I do the same to his result. TTPMuscoy: Luckily we don't fight! HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL T83BIRD: LOLOL OWC Helio: LOL HOST EBK Chip: Hokay, the hour has turned. This chat lasts for two HOST EBK Chip: hours; Tim, we usually only put our guests in the hot TTPMuscoy: I'm usually the one who declares the ending. "Blaylock, it's done, stop." HOST EBK Chip: seat for an hour, but you're more than welcome to HOST EBK Chip: continue if you wish. :) TTPMuscoy: Oh, I can hang around for a bit! HOST EBK Chip: Most excellent. :) OWC Helio: Still protocol? Shadowjakk: I would guess it's a mystical rite involving alcohol and Shadowjakk: imaginary Maenads. Collaboration, that is. :) HOST EBK Chip: Mmm...let's try it without protocol for a bit. T83BIRD: LOL Shadow TTPMuscoy: Shadow, you've put your finger on it! HOST EBK Chip: If it gets too hairy, we'll re-impose it. OWC Helio: Wahooo, I'm vacating my hot seat for a bit then :) HOST EBK Chip: No wonder authors like to collaborate. :) HOST EBK Chip: Thanks, Helio. :) TTPMuscoy: Lots of mystical aspects to alcohol. OnlineHost: El Dorobo has left the room. HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, and I have to say...DRAWING OF THE DARK is what got me hooked on beer. Shadowjakk: It can Bacchus into a corner. TTPMuscoy: Chip, yes - half the work gets done for you, and all you did was socialize! TTPMuscoy: Chip, yikes! Do take it easy! TTPMuscoy: Shadow, well put, well put! T83BIRD: ooch Shadow HOST EBK Chip: Shadow. :/ Hypatia141: Shadow, oh dear Shadowjakk: This is preliminary to the lawsuit, Tim. :) TTPMuscoy: Shadow, I understood that. HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Shadowjakk: Chip's addiction, that is. :) TTPMuscoy: Yes. TTPMuscoy: I feel terrible. TTPMuscoy: Chip, not in the morning! HOST EBK Chip: Just a comment. Makes it easier to explain it to my HOST EBK Chip: (Mormon) mother if I can claim it's "mystical." ;) TTPMuscoy: Chip, right - lots of historical precedent for religious connections. TTPMuscoy: I'm convinced. HOST EBK Chip: One thing I've noticed about most of your supernatural HOST EBK Chip: creatures...they all seem to have "scientific" HOST EBK Chip: explanations (in the books) if you squint a little... Shadowjakk: Have you mined the Victorians and Romantics for all their worth, Tim? Shadowjakk: Their=they're. HOST EBK Chip: Puts me in mind a bit of what Heinlein was doing in TTPMuscoy: Chip, true. I do want it to sound scientifically plausible, as much as possible. HOST EBK Chip: GLORY ROAD..."explaining" magic with science. Is that HOST EBK Chip: intentional? Phx8: Shadow, there is not their they're Phx8: whoops 'no' TTPMuscoy: Shadow, yes, I love the romantics. Again, if I had a time machine ... TTPMuscoy: Chip, now that you mention it, I bet I DID get it from Glory Road, largely! T83BIRD: Tim, Fritz Leiber's Time Wars put me in mind of quantum mechanics. What do you think? HOST EBK Chip: That may be why your works are so easy for hard-core HOST EBK Chip: SF fans to swallow; we don't have to make too many HOST EBK Chip: leaps of faith. :) TTPMuscoy: T, I do find Quantum Mechanics just fascinating. T83BIRD: As do I. TTPMuscoy: And I try to use it, in idiotically macro ways! Seraph23: Tim...... example? TTPMuscoy: Like, with a penny instead of an electron. Way to big, but neat effects. TTPMuscoy: You know, "not the same penny, didn't go from here to there," etc. Phx8: Wish I could stay... Tim, promise I will read one of your books- buy it even, not just check Athanor IX: I liked the grapeshot making an interference pattern... Phx8: one out of the library HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Phx Shadowjakk: Yeah...it's not a big leap from quantum mechanics to transubstantiation. :) TTPMuscoy: Ph, cool, thanks! See you later! E cat s: Or levitation :) OWC Helio: Good night, Phx! Phx8: Teenage son wants to go dye his hair blond Phx8: Nite! TTPMuscoy: Shadow, I do agree! TTPMuscoy: Ph, yikes! OnlineHost: Phx8 has left the room. TTPMuscoy: Better than blue. T83BIRD: Yep, Shadow, the tranny in our SW really needs substantiation. TTPMuscoy: I get great effects by just magnifying quantum effects to life-size. TTPMuscoy: Don't tell anybody! HOST EBK Chip: LOL Shadowjakk: What made you juxtapose Bugsy and the tarot? That Shadowjakk: was one of the most strangely inventive correlations I've Shadowjakk: ever read. T83BIRD: LOL OWC Helio: LOL TTPMuscoy: Shadow, I read that playing cards and Tarot cards have the same derivation, and TTPMuscoy: so I re-read Eliot's The Waste-Land, and all the talk about a perilous chapel in TTPMuscoy: the wilderness just sounded exactly like Las Vegas. And then TTPMuscoy: Las Vegas history just handed me Siegel. HOST EBK Chip: That's a heckuva linear progression. T83BIRD: BTW: "Tarot* is actually an anagram of *rota,* *wheel* with an extra letter added. TTPMuscoy: Right. Probably not all that linear, really! TTPMuscoy: T, I never knew that! T83BIRD: For the Wheel of Fortune, Tim. Shadowjakk: Like a patient etherised on the blackjack table? I just Shadowjakk: loved the possibilities there. "To sleep with the Fisher Shadowjakk: King", etc. TTPMuscoy: Right, that was a very compelling image for them then! TTPMuscoy: Shadow, very good! HOST EBK Chip: Ouch, Shadow. Seraph23: Vegas though... wouldn't that be "Eddy Fisher King"? HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Ser TTPMuscoy: Seraph, you're not doing badly either! TTPMuscoy: I feel so slow! Shadowjakk: LOL T83BIRD: LOL Ser HOST EBK Chip: These guys hone their skills in here constantly. TTPMuscoy: That's why I take two years to write a book. I think slow. HOST EBK Chip: But really, *really* thoroughly, I'd say. TTPMuscoy: Tomorrow I'll have a killer Eliot/cards pun. HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Shadowjakk: LOL Seraph23: TTP... the germans have a saying for it.... T83BIRD: Tim, my spouse Bonnie says I'm so slow a glacier could outrun me. Seraph23: roughly translated as : "the thing I remember on the stairs on the way to bed at night." TTPMuscoy: T, I won't tell my wife that. She'll appropriate it. T83BIRD: LOL Tim TTPMuscoy: Seraph, right! In French it's "esprit d'escalier". Seraph23: Spirit of the snails? HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL E cat s: LOL T83BIRD: afk TTPMuscoy: Seraph, I may have misspelled it! It's supposed to be "stairway"! OWC Helio: Esgargots are snails TTPMuscoy: Though Spirit of the Snails is evocative. Seraph23: Oh, I figure every other word in french is "snails" E cat s: it's not misspelled. Hypatia141: LOL, Tim, you didn't misspell it. ;) HOST EBK Chip: LOL Ser Shadowjakk: No...you're thinking of the Escargot Cult, Ser. OWC Helio: Escargots, even HOST EBK Chip: Oh, Shadow. :/ TTPMuscoy: Seraph, very good! LOL! TTPMuscoy: The Escargot Cult! Don't mention them on AOL. OWC Helio: LOL Shadowjakk: LOL OnlineHost: Nrwing has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Nr! Nrwing: evenin chip, all T83BIRD: bak HOST EBK Chip: We're interviewing author Tim Powers tonight, Nr. Join in. :) Seraph23: Tim .... a question about editing .... Shadowjakk: It's all a shell game, anyway. HOST EBK Chip: Shadow. :/ TTPMuscoy: Seraph, yes? Seraph23: when do you let folks read your work? TTPMuscoy: Shadow, good! T83BIRD: Shadow, sometimes it's an artillery shell game. TTPMuscoy: I have my wife read it, and a couple of friends. It does seem like an imposition. Seraph23: As your're working? TTPMuscoy: But it's a huge help to have a literate person read it! Lots of stuff Seraph23: Or, when you have big blocks complete? TTPMuscoy: seems okay to me, and my wife will say, "I thought they were still in the car." Seraph23: LOLOL Shadowjakk: LOL TTPMuscoy: Seraph, when blocks are complete, I guess. T83BIRD: LOL Tim TTPMuscoy: Though my wife reads it pretty much as it happens! TTPMuscoy: You think I'm kidding, about the scene in the car! Hypatia141: It's hard to read somebody else's work if there isn't much of it. My friends send me HOST EBK Chip: Nah. That's why production companies have continuity people. Hypatia141: chapters at a time, and I forget completely what was in the last chapter! TTPMuscoy: Chip, true. HOST EBK Chip: I do have a related question about continuity... TTPMuscoy: Hypatia, you have my sympathy! I hate when people send me stuff they've written! HOST EBK Chip: One of the things that impresses me most about your HOST EBK Chip: writing is that you feed what seems like an infinite HOST EBK Chip: number of threads into a central theme. How do you HOST EBK Chip: manage to keep them all straight? TTPMuscoy: Chip, I make graphs and calendars, and lots & lots of notes; and mainly TTPMuscoy: I take two years to get it squared away! Shadowjakk: Do you find your novels getting longer? Is that due to Shadowjakk: the complexity of theme, editorial license, or the HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Shadowjakk: particular requirements of your last several works? TTPMuscoy: Shadow, good choices! TTPMuscoy: Um - TTPMuscoy: I think complexity of the stories, lately! The editors do hate it. Shadowjakk: Please answer in 1000 pages or less. :) OWC Helio: LOL TTPMuscoy: "Can't you lose 20,000 words somewhere? HOST EBK Chip: LOL T83BIRD: LOL Shadowjakk: "Lose"? Is that the word? :) TTPMuscoy: Editors like books about 120,000 words. You have to argue to get 'em longer. Hypatia141: Hence why we have 4-book trilogies, I expect. TTPMuscoy: Shadow, they use a ruder verb. TTPMuscoy: Hypatia, yes, I bet that's right. Shadowjakk: That's what I would have thought. :) TTPMuscoy: This new one is over 200,000 words. HOST EBK Chip: Yikes. TTPMuscoy: I know! OWC Helio: I like long books :) TTPMuscoy: I couldn't help it. Shadowjakk: I think that longer novels are becoming the norm. Maybe there will be less resisitance. HOST EBK Chip: LOL TTPMuscoy: Helio, good, good! OWC Helio: I'll be waiting for it, Tim! TTPMuscoy: Shadow, I do hope so. Look at Robert Jordan! TTPMuscoy: Helio, I owe you a drink! Athanor IX: I'd rather not. T83BIRD: Mark Twain once said that a tale must be allowed to tell itself out. TTPMuscoy: Athanor, LOL! Shadowjakk: I tried. But I only have 3 billion neurons, Tim. TTPMuscoy: T, I'm gonna use that. "Tell it to Mark Twain!" OnlineHost: DerHexer has entered the room. T83BIRD: thx Tim DerHexer: Hi all OWC Helio: Hi, Der! TTPMuscoy: Der, hello! HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Der. T83BIRD: Hey Der TAMirabile: Hi Der DerHexer: Hi TTP et al Nrwing: hi Der HOST EBK Chip: We're interviewing Tim Powers tonight, Der. Join us. Shadowjakk: But...I read CRYPTOMICON recently, and really can't Shadowjakk: see Stephenson losing 20,000 words...or you losing Shadowjakk: them from EW. OWC Helio: EW? TTPMuscoy: Shadow, right - some books just need a lot of words to work right! HOST EBK Chip: EARTHQUAKE WEATHER. Shadowjakk: Earthquake Weather. OWC Helio: OIC :/ HOST EBK Chip: CRYPTONOMICON doesn't even count, Shadow. It's a HOST EBK Chip: coffee table book in the sense that it could be used as HOST EBK Chip: one. DerHexer: LOL Chip TTPMuscoy: Chip, LOL! T83BIRD: LOL Chi[ T83BIRD: Chip DerHexer: Like most of Elron's books OnlineHost: Patterner has entered the room. OWC Helio: Going to Worldcon this year, Tim? TTPMuscoy: For Earthquake Weather the editor wanted cuts, and I just pleaded. Shadowjakk: And I lost 2 letters from CRYPTONOMICON in my earlier entry. It was the editor, honest. DerHexer: Hi Patt T83BIRD: Hi Patt HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Patt! OWC Helio: Hi, Patt! Hypatia141: Patt :) Patterner: Hi folks! Hi Tim! Shadowjakk: Hi Patt. TTPMuscoy: Helio, I dunno! I hope to make World Fantasy, at least. TAMirabile: Hi Patt! Nrwing: hi Patt HOST EBK Chip: We've dropped protocol, Patt. Join right in. :) Patterner: Ah, okay. I'll skip saying hello to everybody, Patterner: though. OWC Helio: Bummer, Tim, I could have a book ready for you to autograph :) TTPMuscoy: Helio, we'll meet at some convention eventually! Shadowjakk: Would the pleading have worked 20 years ago, Tim? :) TTPMuscoy: Shadow, no! TTPMuscoy: Even ten years ago! TTPMuscoy: It might not work next time! Shadowjakk: LOL T83BIRD: LOL OnlineHost: RAWoodward has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: I keep thinking they'll say "We've cut this Powers guy enough slack." T83BIRD: Hi RAW HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, RA! OWC Helio: Hi RAW! Nrwing: hi RA Hypatia141: RAW :) TTPMuscoy: Hello, RAW! DerHexer: TTP, we are a very polite group HOST EBK Chip: Author Tim Powers is our guest tonight, RA. Join us. :) TAMirabile: Hi RAW TTPMuscoy: Der, so I see! DerHexer: But wait until you leave Patterner: Hi RAW! TTPMuscoy: Ah! Seraph23: Der, exactly RAWoodward: I suspect that I will be lurking tonight, the only Powers title that I have read is_ DerHexer: Tim, what is Earthquake Weather about?? RAWoodward: _The Drawing of the Dark_ TTPMuscoy: Der, Dionysus raising hell in the California wine country. Shadowjakk: Oh, the beer book. :) DerHexer: Jeesh, I live in the CAL wine country HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, Shadow. In the sense that TITANIC was "the boat movie." :P TTPMuscoy: Der, it's a sequel to Last Call & Expiration Date. I meant it to be able to stand alone, but Shadowjakk: Right. just so. :) TTPMuscoy: the reviewers all said I failed. Hypatia141: Have to admit, Earthquake Weather was my fave. OnlineHost: Techyo has entered the room. TTPMuscoy: Hypatia, you're a brilliant reader. HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Tech! DerHexer: Well, I'll have to look it up if only to check the accuracy OWC Helio: Hey Techie! Nrwing: hi Tech DerHexer: Hi Tech Hypatia141: Tech :) Seraph23: Tim.... I thought for certain that Dionysis was Crane ... and that he'd simply forgotten... T83BIRD: Tim, I have yet to know a reviewer who has succeeded. Hi Tech TTPMuscoy: Der, yes, do check it out! Lots of wine talk. Techyo: Hi ALL! TAMirabile: Hi Tech Seraph23: did you consider going down that road? TTPMuscoy: T, good of you to say! Shadowjakk: And you've said that you're Crane, Tim. Ergo, Tim Powers is Dionysius, correct? :) HOST EBK Chip: Thanks, Socrates. TTPMuscoy: Seraph, I may have, I think. It would have been very bad news for Crane! Hypatia141: afk TTPMuscoy: Shadow, correct. Seraph23: Shadow, and love is blind, Ray charles is blind... ergo, ray charles is love. T83BIRD: Thanks, but it's true. I used to be an associate professor of English, Tim. Shadowjakk: Can I borrow a few Maenads of your time, then? TTPMuscoy: Seraph, yikes! Makes sense to me! HOST EBK Chip: Ow! TTPMuscoy: Shadow, you're on a roll! DerHexer: Well, Ser, there may be a few gaps in that logci HOST EBK Chip: No, he's *always* like this, Tim. T83BIRD: A Kaiser roll, Tim. TTPMuscoy: T, don't stop - just go with it, & see where you wind up. T83BIRD: LOL Shadowjakk: Ask him about green weather, Chip. TTPMuscoy: Green weather? HOST EBK Chip: :::thwapping Shadow soundly::: Techyo: ROFL HOST EBK Chip: It's a long story, Tim. We had a protracted argument OWC Helio: After this, everybody go and buy a Tim Powers book! HOST EBK Chip: about "earthquake weather" the other day. DerHexer: Green weather? Now that's an evocative phrase TTPMuscoy: No kidding! OnlineHost: Kakaze has entered the room. T83BIRD: In this room thwapping is done soundlessly. DerHexer: Hi Kak Patterner: It's been awfully grey here lately. Patterner: Hi Kak! OWC Helio: Heya, Kak HOST EBK Chip: I'm a CA native who was transplanted, kicking and shrieking to the East Coast. T83BIRD: Kaik Shadowjakk: Chip has a seisable theory, concerning green weather. Hypatia141: Kak :) HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Kak. Techyo: That was by CCR, right Shadow? Nrwing: hi kak T83BIRD: Kak T83BIRD: That was a typo, Kak. Techyo: Hi Kak! TAMirabile: Hi Kak DerHexer: I could see 'green weather' applied to one of those spring days when every plant Shadowjakk: Days in Green Brunei apparently precede an earthquake, according to Chip. :) DerHexer: is just bursting w/life TTPMuscoy: Shadow, I begin to see the logic, dimly. TTPMuscoy: Der, yes! HOST EBK Chip: It's a loooooong story. TTPMuscoy: Chip, I bet. Shadowjakk: G'head, Chip. Green weather. :) HOST EBK Chip: And I plan to take a ball bat over to Shadow's after the chat. Techyo: :::shines spotlight on Chip::: TTPMuscoy: There's supposed to be a flash of green, in Florida sunsets. OWC Helio: LOLOL DerHexer: T83 used the term 'folded time' the other night. THAT started me on some heavy duty surfing TTPMuscoy: Der, that is evocative! Shadowjakk: Chip claims that californians are prescient, with regards to earthquakes. T83BIRD: Shadow is taking a page from Gand's book: he's *egging* Chip on. Nrwing: heard abt the green flash thing TTPMuscoy: I've been reading The Elegant Universe, by Greene - all about String Theory. HOST EBK Chip: Neat, Tim. Seraph23: Folded Time.... something found in God's laundry basket? Techyo: I suppose you've already went into inspirations? HOST EBK Chip: LOL Ser HOST EBK Chip: Sorta, Tech. Nrwing: how is that book Tim? T83BIRD: LOL Ser HOST EBK Chip: Did you have a different spin on the question? OnlineHost: Kakaze has left the room. Shadowjakk: Apparently, there is a particular weather phenom that precedes them. Do you agree, Tim? TTPMuscoy: Seraph, that's very cool. T83BIRD: bye Kak TTPMuscoy: Shadow, definitely. You can tell by the light. TTPMuscoy: Coppery sort of sunlight! Techyo: Like the green sun flash? HOST EBK Chip: :::wild, sustained applause::: Seraph23: Tim, pained me to write as an atheist and a physicist... next thing ya know, I'll see it on TTPMuscoy: Tech, a slower effect! Seraph23: a Hallmark card. DerHexer: Shadow, I've read about that theory of weather and earthquakes OnlineHost: Kakaze has entered the room. E cat s: Night, all. Thank you for coming to the O*W*C, Mr. Powers!! OWC Helio: WB, Kak TTPMuscoy: Seraph, or in a Powers book! T83BIRD: re's Kak HOST EBK Chip: Night, E! HOST EBK Chip: Re's, Kak. OWC Helio: Nite, E! Nrwing: night E DerHexer: Nite E cat T83BIRD: Nite e Shadowjakk: Night, E. OnlineHost: E cat s has left the room. Kakaze: I was never here TAMirabile: Night E! T83BIRD: E TTPMuscoy: Seraph, I envy you your knowledge of physics! OnlineHost: GRENDALS1 has entered the room. DerHexer: LOL KAK Patterner: Hi GREN! HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, you were, Kak. Kakaze: Heli!!!! T!!! Chip!!! T83BIRD: Hi GREN HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, GREN. OWC Helio: Hi, GREN. Hypatia141: Gren :) Techyo: Mash crystal. You do that and you get light. GRENDALS1: 'Evening Y'all TAMirabile: Hi Gren Kakaze: The screen never formed and I had to reboot HOST EBK Chip: Kak and GREN, tonight we're interviewing author Tim Powers. TTPMuscoy: Gren, hello! DerHexer: Y'all?? Kakaze: My video card is dying and AOL is conflicting with it. Hypatia141: Kak, bummer. Kakaze: OWC? Please tell me they're replacing EBK with that! GRENDALS1: Y'all is southern for 'Youse Guys OWC Helio: Only me, Kak. TTPMuscoy: Kak, you need a big Jesuit, with holy water. Techyo: ROFL I read that drying. OWC Helio: LOLOL, Tim HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Tim DerHexer: LOL TTP TAMirabile: LOL Tech T83BIRD: ROFL Tim Kakaze: Holy water might do the trick...I think the bloody thing is posessed anyway. OWC Helio: LOL, Tech. TAMirabile: LOL Tim Techyo: Ghost in the machine eh? ROFL Tim! TTPMuscoy: Kak, right. I mean a BIG Jesuit. Shadowjakk: Coppery light, eh? You've been vindicated, Chip. A veritable verdigristmas present, Patterner: LOL Kakaze: The hard drive span around spitting byte soup. TTPMuscoy: Shadow, well put! Patterner: Oh, Shadow DerHexer: There's a southern preacher who claims that the Devil can possess a personal Seraph23: Deus Et Mackinaw .... Ghost in The Raincoat Techyo: ::grabs dictionary::: HOST EBK Chip: Oy. DerHexer: computer. If it was built after 1990, the hard drive is big enough to hold him HOST EBK Chip: LOL Ser TTPMuscoy: Seraph, that's pretty good! T83BIRD: oofda Shadow Kakaze: Deus means god doesn't it? Nrwing: lol OWC Helio: Yep, Kak TTPMuscoy: Der, I like that! Seraph23: Kak, dunno... ask The Police Athanor IX: 1990? The Devil can fit on a 120 meg hard drive? OWC Helio: LOL, Ser Kakaze: Spiritum ex mackinaw. TTPMuscoy: Athanor, uh-oh, good point. Techyo: Fit in a snake. DerHexer: But, you don't need a minister to exorcise him, just replace your hard drive and reboot Kakaze: Spritium ex computori! HOST EBK Chip: Tim, you write about some fairly creepy creatures. HOST EBK Chip: When you're in the middle of writing that kind of book, do HOST EBK Chip: you eye dark corners nervously? :) Athanor IX: Gee...that means the Devil will fit on zip disks. TTPMuscoy: Chip, true! Shadowjakk: Sure, Ath. As long as you're running a Pentium 666. TTPMuscoy: Ath, imagine the virus hell! HOST EBK Chip: Shadow. :/ OWC Helio: LOLOL, Shadow. DerHexer: Hey, Ath, I just report this stuff. You start check National Enquier for logic and DerHexer: you'll end up in a rubber room T83BIRD: oya Shadow Hypatia141: Shadow, you are in rarer form than usual tonight Techyo: Ath unsipping the Devil just sounds weird ya know. HOST EBK Chip: Der, I'd seen something about that on the Web, too. OWC Helio: That's scary, Tim. Do you write late at nights? Techyo: unzipping rather DerHexer: Unzip the Devil - sounds kinky Nrwing: yep Athanor IX: If the Devil was on my hard drive...I'd burn a few dozen CDs. Kakaze: Sounds like a Stephen King novel, Der. Techyo: Wasn't that a Stones LP? HOST EBK Chip: LOL Ath Hypatia141: Der, or a carnival ride OWC Helio: LOL, Ath. Seraph23: Tech, Tim's characters drink/inhale ghosts... they could unsip the devul. TTPMuscoy: Helio, yes, mostly! And sometimes I do think, "Oh my God, you've stumbled onto something TTPMuscoy: real! Shadowjakk: Rara avis, Hypatia. At avis, we try harder. Kakaze: No!! A Steven King, Danielle Steele, collaberation! OWC Helio: ::: shudder ::: HOST EBK Chip: LOL Tim Nrwing: ack Techyo: ::shivers::: T83BIRD: There is a pun which cannot be used in this room about the Devil and a hard drive. Kakaze: She moved her hands over Pennywises pale chest... TTPMuscoy: T, I bet there is. HOST EBK Chip: Oh, lest I forget, let me hit y'all with tomorrow's teaser... TTPMuscoy: Kak, very good! HOST EBK Chip: Saturday, June 17, 10 pm ET. We feel our individuality HOST EBK Chip: proudly. Will humanity ever evolve a hive mind? How HOST EBK Chip: would we be different if we were part of a hive mind?... HOST EBK Chip: ...Would we yearn for freedom, be frightened of the HOST EBK Chip: thought or what? Are there stories about humans or Kakaze: :::bowing::: Thank you! Thank you! HOST EBK Chip: other species/peoples as hive minds? Join HOST EBK HOST EBK Chip: Lyra in... we are not alone. Kakaze: I'd like to thank all the little people I stepped on to do that well... HOST EBK Chip: We now return you to your regular programming. Techyo: o/` is there anybody OUT there? o/` Kakaze: Same bat channel, Chip? TTPMuscoy: Kak, it was worth it. OnlineHost: Jay 2K Winger has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: That pretty well sums us up, Kak. OWC Helio: Hi Wingre! HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Jay! OWC Helio: Winger, even. DerHexer: Hi Jay Kakaze: Jay! Nrwing: regular? or bat? HOST EBK Chip: Author Tim Powers is our special guest tonight. Join us! Jay 2K Winger: Heya! ((Argh...lag...)) HOST EBK Chip: Bat, Nr. Shadowjakk: Tim, did you travel to Europe before or during the writing of STRESS? TTPMuscoy: Jay, hello! Nrwing: just checking Jay 2K Winger: Good to be back... TTPMuscoy: Shadow, no, I got it all from books. About a hundred of 'em, lots of pictures. Patterner: Hi Jay! Jay 2K Winger: It's Patt!! Kakaze: Europe...Oh! I'd love to travel Europe. OnlineHost: GRENDALS1 has left the room. TTPMuscoy: Shadow, Last Call was the first book for which I could actually visit the setting. T83BIRD: bye GREN Techyo: So are ghosts an learned taste (based on what Ser said)? DerHexer: I lived in Europe, 3 times TTPMuscoy: Tech, right, like gin. Techyo: ROFL Kakaze: Ghosts are ecto-y! DerHexer: Ghosts a learned taste? What do they taste like? Chicken? Seraph23: Gin, Yuck! Would Kootie's ghost taste like Bombay Saphire? Shadowjakk: You did good. Your Italy was more than a Byronic shadow. TTPMuscoy: Kak - you're onto something there. Techyo: Plasmatical HOST EBK Chip: LOL Der OWC Helio: Marshmallow, Der. Jay 2K Winger: <-- Is f.k.a. USFWinger for those keeping score TAMirabile: Ghosts taste good? with or without hot sauce? TTPMuscoy: Seraph, Kootie is Indian! Kakaze: I thought I fell off a long time ago, TT... T83BIRD: ::::imagining a Byronic Shadow::::: TTPMuscoy: Shadow, thanks! Techyo: Nice name update, Winger. DerHexer: Byronic? As in Lord Byron the poet? Seraph23: Tim.. last I checked... Bombay was in... T83BIRD: Yep, Ser. TTPMuscoy: Der, right! I love Byron. Jay 2K Winger: Thankee, Tech. I am the Original Y2J Problem. TTPMuscoy: Seraph, I screwed up? T83BIRD: No, Tim. I did. Seraph23: Uhh, not real sure at the moment, been a long day. Techyo: Bombay, Indiana? OWC Helio: Kootie is East Indian, you mean? DerHexer: Byron is good "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings....' TTPMuscoy: TEch, that's it. Nrwing: oops.afk OWC Helio: OK Shadowjakk: Poet, character, and Prime Minister in THE DIFFERENCE ENGINE. A man of many talents. :) Athanor IX: That's Shelly, Hex. Jay 2K Winger: I never got into poetry much... Techyo: Sorry couldn't resist. OWC Helio: Not Bomby, India :) TTPMuscoy: Der, yes! "look on my works, ye mighty, and despair." Kakaze: Ozymandias...that's a neat name. Kakaze: I first heard it when I read the Robots and Aliens series. Kakaze: Does it have a translation? HOST EBK Chip: Probably not, Kak. Kakaze: Humph. HOST EBK Chip: Unless it means, "You in the crown." Seraph23: Ozymandias - "Bat eating babylonian" Kakaze: Still neat...I wonder if anyone has that name now. HOST EBK Chip: Oy, Ser. TTPMuscoy: Seraph, you're a scholar. Kakaze: "You in the crown"? DerHexer: By Ghod. You're right, Ath. I actually made a mistake Techyo: Translates your tongue when you say it. OWC Helio: Probably just called Ossie, kak T83BIRD: ::::Ozziemandias and Harriet:::::: TTPMuscoy: OWC, true. HOST EBK Chip: Oy, T8. Shadowjakk: And inventor of the 'pocket poet' By-Ronco. TTPMuscoy: T, that's your best yet! HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Shadow TTPMuscoy: T, that's really very good. DerHexer: Oh no, poet puns Jay 2K Winger: Ozymadias = "Disembodied statue head" Kakaze: ARGH! Ron Popiel must die! T83BIRD: thx Tim TTPMuscoy: Jay, that sounds right. Patterner: LOL Seraph23: Ozymandias - "The Man Behind The Curtain" HOST EBK Chip: Oy again. HOST EBK Chip: I'll be in the corner, wincing, if you need me. OWC Helio: The Oys are raining. Hypatia141: I just splurted coffee through my nose on to my keyboard, Shadow. I hope you're happy. TTPMuscoy: I love "Ozymandias and Harriet." That would be a great title. Kakaze: Oh forget you all! I'm just gonna check the dictionary. Y'all never give a straight answer Patterner: Oh, clearly Oxymandias means "The mouth of Patterner: Australia." Shadowjakk: No more lame Byron puns...please. DerHexer: LOL Hyp. Do that w/beer sometime Jay 2K Winger: Explain, Patt. HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, Hyp. He isn't fulfilled until he ruins a keyboard. T83BIRD: Chip is our Great Lubricator: she dispenses lots of *oyl.* HOST EBK Chip: Shadow!!! DerHexer: That hurt, hadow Shadowjakk: It was a bit limp. Jay 2K Winger: Ack, T8 that one actually caused me physical pain! DerHexer: YB Yeats is a great poet HOST EBK Chip: Shadow. :/ Kakaze: Oh! A web search turned up "Ozymandias' guide to sabotage" TTPMuscoy: Der, yes! T83BIRD: LOL Jay Kakaze: Sorry...sabotage handbook. HOST EBK Chip: It probably involves cutting people off at the ankles, Kak. Patterner: Well, Jay, Oz is Australia, and Mand is a root Patterner: word for mandible/mouth. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Patt. TTPMuscoy: Patterson, you've convinced me. OWC Helio: ROFL Techyo: I've got to go out and grab your books now, Tim. Techyo: Anyone who can stand toe to toe this fast with this Jay 2K Winger: Oh. Leave it to me to learn something during my vacation. [sigh[ Techyo: groop I have to read it's a law or some such. Hypatia141: I thought Oz was California? TTPMuscoy: Tech, bless your heart! HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Tech. Patterner: Jay, I was joking! T83BIRD: LOL Tech Jay 2K Winger: Oh. I'll just go over this way and thwap myself unconscious, that okay? DerHexer: The redhead says Hi All!! Shadowjakk: Simmons got to Yeatts first, and I just can't see a great TTPMuscoy: Kids, I should probably sign off. Can one drop in here anytime? Shadowjakk: dark fantasy work about, say....Wordsworth. Byron Shadowjakk: was a good choice. :) HOST EBK Chip: He's right, Tim. People should read you just on the HOST EBK Chip: strength of your comportment in here. ;) Techyo: Oh do, Tim! HOST EBK Chip: Please do, Tim! Hypatia141: Thanks, Tim! TTPMuscoy: Chip, damn right. T83BIRD: Nite Tim and many thanks. OWC Helio: Sure, Tim! DerHexer: Anytime TTP Patterner: Naw, we should make him host. HOST EBK Chip: We'd love to have you. :) Patterner: Night, Tim! Seraph23: Tim, been a real pleasure HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Patt TTPMuscoy: You don't have to register or anything to get in here? Shadowjakk: Please do...we'd love to have you. :) Kakaze: Ah, I don't feel like looking. TAMirabile: Good night, Tim, please come back soon Nrwing: thanks Tim HOST EBK Chip: Nope. Drop by any time. Kakaze: It's such a short poem though. HOST EBK Chip: The same way you came in tonight. Seraph23: Tim, well, donations ARE appreciated..... Patterner: No, just show up between 10pm - 12am ET every Patterner: night. :) Nrwing: no , whatever wanders in off the street TTPMuscoy: Cool! I will definitely be back! Thanks! HOST EBK Chip: We're here every night 10-12 Eastern. DerHexer: TTTP, just send me $50 in cash, you shouldn't have any problems OWC Helio: Nite, Tim, it was fabulous! HOST EBK Chip: Thank you!!! Kakaze: Night author person! Jay 2K Winger: And leave your sanity at the door! T83BIRD: Tim, you have imbued us with new Powers. TTPMuscoy: Der, got it. HOST EBK Chip: LOL T8 Patterner: Oh T8! TTPMuscoy: T, very good! Nrwing: ack Techyo: Night Tim sorry I was so late! Jay 2K Winger: ::arghs and chases T8 with his Thwapping Stick(tm):: TTPMuscoy: TEch, I'll talk to you next time! Shadowjakk: Thanks a lot for talking with us, Tim! Kakaze: Sorry doesn't cut it, Tech! You must kiss his feet! Techyo: Cool deal! TTPMuscoy: Shadow, my pleasure. TTPMuscoy: See you all later! OWC Helio: Tech is hosting in SF Forum! HOST EBK Chip: Ours, too! Night! Shadowjakk: Night! Techyo: You were after me, Kak, what you gona do? Kakaze: It OnlineHost: TTPMuscoy has left the room. Techyo: Patterner: LOL RAWoodward: Some rather interesting sidelights from my viewpoint in lurkdom Kakaze: I'm god. DerHexer: Like what, RAW?? Kakaze: Don't haveta do anything. Techyo: No Reg is god. RAWoodward: Seraph23: Now that was excellent........ who arranged for his interview? HOST EBK Chip: I did, Ser. Techyo: The man who pointed out dog and god's conections wins that title. Seraph23: Three cheers for Chip - thank you. RAWoodward: Green flash for instance - If I had time, I might had said something about that Techyo: Good deal, Chip, I like em. Kakaze: So, who is he? Patterner: Chip did. Shadowjakk: Chip trapped his soul on a floppy disk and demanded an interview as ransom. HOST EBK Chip: We got a tip that he had an AOL account, and I wrote him and groveled. :) HOST EBK Chip: LOL Shadow DerHexer: LOL Shadow HOST EBK Chip: Kak, he's a really good author. T83BIRD: Thanks for the well-modulated chat, Chip. Kakaze: Never heard of him. Jay 2K Winger: Lemme guess, Shadow, it was an MS disk, right? Kakaze: I'll have to take a looksee. RAWoodward: Oh, well, Time for me to go ... Shadowjakk: LOL RAWoodward: Seraph23: Well, it was worth blowing off my company for a night.... been looking forward to this for Techyo: I've been meaning to read him for a while. Seraph23: weeks... T83BIRD: Nite RAW Seraph23: did not disappoint. Patterner: Night, RAw! Jay 2K Winger: Night RAW Hypatia141: Night RAW Techyo: Night, Raw! DerHexer: Nite RAW HOST EBK Chip: Night, RA! OnlineHost: RAWoodward has left the room. Seraph23: Gotta split too...... night folks OWC Helio: Nite, RAW! Kakaze: I didn't realize it's midnight already. T83BIRD: Nite Ser HOST EBK Chip: Night, Ser! Kakaze: Time flies. Hypatia141: Night Ser OnlineHost: Seraph23 has left the room. HOST EBK Chip: Tech, try STRESS OF HER REGARD. OWC Helio: Nite,Ser HOST EBK Chip: Many folks think it's one of his best. Jay 2K Winger: Kak -- oh, is that what that chiming sound was that I heard soaring overhead? Hypatia141: Earthquake Weather, Tech. OWC Helio: Soon it will be, Kak Techyo: LOL I'll look for it tomorow if I can. Kakaze: And I feel high. Too many fumes in the house. We're painting before the new carpet comes. Kakaze: Jay? Techyo: I refused to work. Techyo: At work. OWC Helio: <--- still stuck in CRYPTO> Athanor IX: I think Stress is his best...it is extremely dark though. Jay 2K Winger: Time flying? Kakaze: Oh. Kakaze: Everything is flying. Techyo: BTW I was late because the son and his lady bought me a BBQ. OWC Helio: I like dark stuff. Nrwing: Crypto is in pb now isn't it? DerHexer: Time flies, alas, I stay OWC Helio: Yep. Kakaze: I see pretty colours coming out of the walls. HOST EBK Chip: Neat, Tech! Jay 2K Winger: <-- has a website now HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, Nr. OWC Helio: NOt yet, NR. Techyo: And we had to test it ya know. Patterner: Cool, Tech! Eddie is old enough to have a Patterner: "lady"? Shadowjakk: Well, the subject matter is dark. Vampires and doomed romantics. Great book, STRESS. HOST EBK Chip: I just gave it to my dad for Father's Day. DerHexer: Good night, all Jay 2K Winger: Kak -- if they start to talk to you, get out while you still can. ;) Techyo: LOL Patt. OnlineHost: DerHexer has left the room. Patterner: Night, Der! OWC Helio: Nite, Der HOST EBK Chip: Night, Der! T83BIRD: Ath, he told me early in the protocol chat that he considers his work funny, not dark. Shadowjakk: Night, Der. Jay 2K Winger: Night Der T83BIRD: Nite Der Hypatia141: Night Der Nrwing: ack, is it father's day yet???? Kakaze: Dark matter is good Shadow. It keep's the universe from flying apart. HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, T8. I was amused by that. Patterner: Sunday, I think. Techyo: I had one at his age. Athanor IX: Yeah I saw that, T... HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, Nr. Sunday. Nrwing: thnx Athanor IX: but Stress is dark. Shadowjakk: Some of it is funny. Hypatia141: I'm sorry to have missed so much. Computer problems :( Techyo: Alais she broke my heart. Kakaze: Join the club, Hy. Shadowjakk: In concept. HOST EBK Chip: The log will be posted, Hyp. :) Patterner: LOL Hypatia141: Great! Techyo: My lady healed it. OWC Helio: You're here now, Hy. Shadowjakk: Like Bugsy Seigel and the tarot. Jay 2K Winger: Hy -- if you have bought a computer, within two hours it will be obsolete HOST EBK Chip: Pretty dark in practise, though, Shadow. Techyo: Yeah I'm gona have to read the log. HOST EBK Chip: Nah, Jay. These days they're saving time by declaring them obsolete right at the factory. Nrwing: afk Hypatia141: Jay, mine is about six years old, and I've patched it up about 20 times. Athanor IX: The bit with the rooster head was funny... Techyo: Guess I'll brush up on my speed reading. OWC Helio: LOL, Chip. Jay 2K Winger: Heck, they declare 'em obsolete before they even get built nowadays. Shadowjakk: Yeah, Ath. That's a good example. OWC Helio: A six-year old 'puter is ancient. HOST EBK Chip: In a, "blargh" sort of way, Ath. Techyo: Planed obsolesense, Winger. Jay 2K Winger: Six-year-old comp isn't ancient, it's extinct...it just hasn't stopped moving yet. Techyo: After all you sell your best shot you go broke. HOST EBK Chip: Well, it's that time again. :) Hypatia141: LOL, well, I like the older models...you can still WORK on em. HOST EBK Chip: Well folks, my time is up, but you all are welcome to HOST EBK Chip: stay here and chat. If you have any problems, feel free HOST EBK Chip: to bellow for help at Keyword: NOTIFY AOL... T83BIRD: Nite Chip and all leavers. Hypatia141: Night Chip Jay 2K Winger: Saynoara, Chip. HOST EBK Chip: Thanks for keeping me company this evening, and I hope to see you again next week! :) Patterner: Thanks, Chip! Good chat! OWC Helio: Thanks, Chip! Patterner: See y'all tomorrow! HOST EBK Chip: And thanks again to Helio! Shadowjakk: Good one, Chip! Night, all! OnlineHost: Hypatia141 has left the room. OnlineHost: Patterner has left the room. Techyo: I can work on any, Hypatia. TAMirabile: Night Chip Thanks HOST EBK Chip: The help with the queue was much appreciated. OnlineHost: Shadowjakk has left the room. HOST EBK Chip: Night, all.