Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 3] 1/24/2003 09:49 PM OnlineHost: To find more book chats and message boards check out Keyword:TABK and Keyword: Sci-Fi. HOST RL Marz: Hi Astra! HOST RL Astra: The Other*Worlds*Cafe is AOL's oldest and largest science fiction HOST RL Astra: discussion group! We have nightly chats in this room from 10 PM to HOST RL Astra: 12 AM ET. Don't forget to check out our boards, library and web HOST RL Astra: links. HOST RL Astra: . HOST RL Astra: *** The opinions expressed in this chat do not necessarily represent HOST RL Astra: those of the Other *Worlds* Cafe or America Online. *** HOST RL Astra: Yo, Marz! HOST RL Marz: I have Steve and Sharon in the other room already... along with a couple of fans. HOST RL Astra: (I keep typing Mars) HOST RL Astra: Hi Steve! Hi Sharon! HOST RL Astra: I saw Steve posted it on his NG. HOST RL Marz: Okay...just a second, I'll turn on NINLILA. HOST RL Astra: ::: imitating NIN ::: Hiccup! NINLILA: --- NINLILA: SharonLee: 7 HOST RL Astra: Are S&S sharing a computer, or individual? NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ninlila is now on...and connecting us to AOL NINLILA: SteveMiller: We have a really great photo of Jon from last Boskone NINLILA: SharonLee: We're holding it for ransom NINLILA: DRomm: Mpls conventions tend to fulfill their duty as Caffeine Delivery Systems. HOST RL Astra: <-- has a good pic of S&S from ConJose :-) NINLILA: SteveMiller: We'll be there soon... NINLILA: SteveMiller: glad to here it NINLILA: SteveMiller: that's hear it NINLILA: SteveMiller: come on robot -- fix my typos! NINLILA: SharonLee: I can't hear it NINLILA: DRomm: Yeah, Steve. I'll grab you two in a corner for an inteverview for my radio show. NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL HOST RL Astra: Steve, if NIN ever starts fixing typos, Jan will be rich! NINLILA: SteveMiller: Thanks ... for warning ... NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: That URL has been bookmarked NINLILA: SteveMiller: ... NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay folks...the lag is down...but not to the 7 seconds I was hoping for. NINLILA: We're still looking at a 20 second lag from the other room. HOST RL Astra: Blah :/ NINLILA: JaniceMars: But it should be fine. NINLILA: SteveMiller: yes NINLILA: SharonLee: I'm here NINLILA: SharonLee: And he's there NINLILA: SteveMiller: I'm here NINLILA: SteveMiller: We have a couple more computers HOST RL Marz: Such is life in the cyberlane... at least she's not spitting up as much. NINLILA: SteveMiller: we can bring online and rotate... NINLILA: SteveMiller: How much do you need for that photo, then... NINLILA: SteveMiller: thought we'd paid everyone off already... NINLILA: SharonLee: Wait -- she said a good picture NINLILA: JaniceMars: And we have 6 minutes. HOST RL Astra: I have it on the computer ... I can mail it to ya, if you really want it. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Oh -- where did she find that NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Little did you know that The Bumpy Passage conceled a hidden camera NINLILA: Mwahahaha NINLILA: SteveMiller: Warning NINLILA: SharonLee: Heaven knows. I think it NINLILA: SharonLee: must be of someone else NINLILA: SteveMiller: the authors is on NINLILA: SteveMiller: Sigh NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'm only giving you the time 5 minutes because I'm not going to ask you to be NINLILA: officially yourselves until then, lol. HOST RL Marz: BTW, some of the way I've speeded up Nin is to cut down the number of lines... HOST RL Astra: They change into 'Le Authors"? HOST RL Marz: she grabs from AOL at one time. NINLILA: SteveMiller: I wonder if Bumpy Passage will make MarsCon NINLILA: DRomm: They can be unofficially Sharon and Steve? NINLILA: SharonLee: Haven't heard from the Owner Operator in a while NINLILA: SharonLee: It's a little scary. But melant'i does NINLILA: SharonLee: come into play NINLILA: SharonLee: Sometimes HOST RL Marz: That means that when we have massive Hi fests...text will be lost from here. HOST RL Marz: So it's important that they send questions to you and me if they want them answered. NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Have you heard from Mykie recently - I need to send him some books. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Yep... NINLILA: SharonLee: Sure. I'd like to see what a good picture looks like : HOST RL Astra: LOL HOST RL Astra: The picture was a plus. I was just glad to find you to sign my book! NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Red eyes I can do... geeen eyes might take a bit of learning NINLILA: DRomm: Okay, I've written the reminder down. Now all I have to do is remember to bring NINLILA: my notes... NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ah yes, notes. NINLILA: SharonLee: Note to Self: Bring notes HOST RL Astra: Set notes down. Walk away. Never find notes again. NINLILA: SharonLee: First part moderated, yes? NINLILA: DRomm: 'In order to perform miracles, one must take notes.' -- Robert Sheckeley. NINLILA: DRomm: Sheckely NINLILA: DRomm: ? NINLILA: SharonLee: That's a good one NINLILA: JaniceMars: Yes indeed. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Putthem back! NINLILA: SteveMiller: ooops Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 3] 1/24/2003 10:00 PM NINLILA: JaniceMars: Tell you what, Sharon and Steve...only answer questions I pose to you and if HOST RL Astra: First question - how many cats actually own you? NINLILA: you'd like...ignore Ninlila for the first hour. NINLILA: SharonLee: Did he take the questions again? NINLILA: SteveMiller: We had a great tome at ConJose NINLILA: DRomm: Who, who wrote the book of love? NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'll remind you to unignore her when the time comes. NINLILA: SteveMiller: and a good time, too NINLILA: SharonLee: Um. Norman Spinrad, wasn't it? NINLILA: DRomm: He wrote the liner notes. NINLILA: SteveMiller: ahem NINLILA: SharonLee: It's cool. I'm fine. Very swuavey. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay...why don't we get rolling and woe to the tardy. NINLILA: SharonLee: Really. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Heck we can do OK with this crowd... NINLILA: DRomm: Soo... Sharon and Steve... what kind of music do you like? NINLILA: SharonLee: Tom Petty NINLILA: SteveMiller: When? NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL...DRomm... NINLILA: SteveMiller: Seriously NINLILA: SharonLee: The Stones OnlineHost: OldWolfGaidin has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****OldWolfGaidin, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****Ldsdwd, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** NINLILA: SharonLee: Meatloaf NINLILA: DRomm: Ok... NINLILA: SharonLee: Janis Ian OldWolfGaidin: Evening, Astra. Did I show up early? NINLILA: SteveMiller: I sued to be Baltimore's rock critic NINLILA: SteveMiller: I used to be, sorry NINLILA: SteveMiller: anyhow - NINLILA: SharonLee: Cats -- four NINLILA: SteveMiller: Rock, blues NINLILA: SharonLee: Right now HOST RL Astra: Nope, Wolf. We've been yakking for 15 minutes now :-) Ldsdwd: Hi Astra. Nice to be here NINLILA: DRomm: Steve: Warning: My new toy is a CD burner, so I can play with my CD NINLILA: collection... NINLILA: SharonLee: George Winston NINLILA: JaniceMars: And I have a question for you two...Al_An_KaHoonah: How different was it to NINLILA: write a novel _not_ set in the Liaden Universe TM NINLILA: SharonLee: Woodchucks' Revenge NINLILA: SharonLee: Talking Heads OnlineHost: Ramoth445 has entered the room. OldWolfGaidin: Oh, neat! I'm reading the sample chapter over at Meisha Merlin. HOST RL Astra: ****Ramoth445, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** NINLILA: SteveMiller: I have a CD burner too, but only use it for back-ups NINLILA: SharonLee: Good question. HOST RL Astra: Wolf - them 2 writes good :-) NINLILA: SharonLee: She said, scrambling for time. NINLILA: SteveMiller: OK - NINLILA: SteveMiller: on the book -- NINLILA: SharonLee: But refreshing, in a weird, gritty sort of way. NINLILA: SteveMiller: it wasn't all that different in most ways OldWolfGaidin: They do, Astra :-) NINLILA: SteveMiller: we just had to make sure we didn;t throw Shan into it to fix everything at NINLILA: once... NINLILA: SharonLee: Or to make things too comfortable. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Also, yes, refreshing NINLILA: SteveMiller: cause we gotto play with new rules NINLILA: SharonLee: Gem's side of the universe is a tad...rough NINLILA: SteveMiller: We've been goofing off NINLILA: SteveMiller: reminds us of the old BBS days NINLILA: SharonLee: We were working! Ldsdwd: May I ask what NIN is talking about? Who is Steve Miller? NINLILA: JaniceMars: Goofing off? What constitutes goofing off for a couple of writers? NINLILA: SteveMiller: -- oh, the sample 1/3 of the book accident? NINLILA: SharonLee: Reading someone else's story. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Good question -- NINLILA: SteveMiller: part of it goofing off is just letting go and not being NINLILA: SteveMiller: formal... NINLILA: SteveMiller: no immediate goal to make a point... HOST RL Astra: Ldsd - NIN is our robot. Steve Miller and Sharon Lee are authors ( www.korval.com), and they're in an internet chatroom. NINLILA: SharonLee: A lot of what looks like goofing off is really work. If you don't NINLILA: SharonLee: feed the creative creature with play, it'll hold back Ldsdwd: Oh, gotcha! NINLILA: SharonLee: on you when you need it. NINLILA: DRomm: Do you guys ever get fan letters from Romance writers: NINLILA: SteveMiller: ? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Me NINLILA: DRomm: ? NINLILA: JaniceMars: ::::Astra shall explain. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Over there. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Sure... NINLILA: SharonLee: From Romance writers? Yes.... got a very nice OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has left the room. OldWolfGaidin: ! I play at writing and I can second what SharonLee said. NINLILA: --- OnlineHost: E cat s has entered the room. NINLILA: --- HOST RL Astra: ****E cat s, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** E cat s: Evening, all :) OldWolfGaidin: Hello, again, E cat :-) E cat s: :::waving:::: NINLILA: SharonLee: Dawn. OnlineHost: Araiused has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****Araiused, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** E cat s: Hi Ara :) Araiused: 'Allo NINLILA: SteveMiller: Have you seen all the chapbooks? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Some ofthem deal with a younger Shan NINLILA: SharonLee: And Local Custom deals with a REALLY younger Shan NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ramoth445: Will we be seeing more of Shan and the others now that 'I Dare' NINLILA: is out or is that it for them? I really hope we see more : NINLILA: DRomm: Zygote Shan NINLILA: SharonLee: Stop that! NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL HOST RL Astra: Oh, I think a teenage Shan would be a hoot to follow around, LOL NINLILA: SteveMiller: No, wait... NINLILA: SteveMiller: The thing is that we don;t want to leave Shan and crew behind NINLILA: SharonLee: Nothing is impossible, Sylvie. NINLILA: SteveMiller: but we have these other gusy NINLILA: SteveMiller: we've been working with for years NINLILA: SharonLee: And we promised NINLILA: SteveMiller: that you haven;t seen yet NINLILA: SteveMiller: But we know them... Ramoth445: Oh, I know but I want Shan and the others and figured this was a good time to plug them when I have your ear HOST RL Astra: LOL NINLILA: SharonLee: and they've been very patient NINLILA: SteveMiller: and want them to be seen NINLILA: SharonLee: Well, sorta patient. NINLILA: DRomm: C'mon Janice, there are only 9 users, and three of them are you. NINLILA: SharonLee: OK, not very patient at all. NINLILA: SteveMiller: lemme out NOW!... NINLILA: SharonLee: Sharon hides under desk: NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Araiused: Q: How long have you been collaborating? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Umm -- you know, parto f that story exists... NINLILA: SteveMiller: How long have we wroked together -- Araiused: Are we being cocooned? HOST RL Astra: DRomm ... 6 more over here :-) NINLILA: SteveMiller: figure the firdst thing we workled on together HOST RL Astra: Ara - moderated for 1st hour, then a free-for-all NINLILA: SharonLee: I dunno -- 1980? Before that, maybe? NINLILA: SteveMiller: was the Star Swerm News NINLILA: SteveMiller: Star Swarm News.. NINLILA: SharonLee: Swarm NINLILA: SharonLee: And that begot Kinzel NINLILA: SteveMiller: so 1979 NINLILA: SteveMiller: True story NINLILA: SteveMiller: we were worj\king on Star Swarm NINLILA: --- NINLILA: DRomm: Did you ever collaborate in a previous life? NINLILA: SharonLee: So handsome. So rich. So....attitudinal.... NINLILA: SteveMiller: So spoiled NINLILA: SharonLee: How would we know? NINLILA: JaniceMars: Al_An_KaHoonah: I really like The Tommorrow Log.... When's the sequel coming NINLILA: out? GD&R Araiused: Oh, goodie Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 7] 1/24/2003 10:15 PM NINLILA: --- NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Great - but I can wait 8- NINLILA: JaniceMars: About how long does it usually take between setting down notes on a book and NINLILA: the actually completion? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Uhhh.. how long? NINLILA: SharonLee: Oh, she thinks we do notes before we start writing. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Yes, that's what I assumed. HOST RL Astra: LOL HOST RL Astra: Lightbulb over the head during breakfast :-) NINLILA: SteveMiller: When Agent started NINLILA: SharonLee: The book we're starting to write now is one we've wanted to NINLILA: DRomm: You should learn to type faster. NINLILA: SteveMiller: it was a sentence NINLILA: SharonLee: write for at least 15 years NINLILA: SteveMiller: not the typing NINLILA: SteveMiller: it's the knowing NINLILA: SharonLee: Agent of Change started with a single paragraph NINLILA: SharonLee: and was done in three months. NINLILA: bookjunkie: I'd like more more Aelliana please. Also some pre DoI NINLILA: JaniceMars: Araiused: Q: do you have disagreements? NINLILA: bookjunkie: Val Con NINLILA: SharonLee: Us? Disagreements? NINLILA: SteveMiller: about what NINLILA: SharonLee: Like, the time I killed off NINLILA: SteveMiller: looking furiuosuly about: NINLILA: SharonLee: two characters and Steve brought them NINLILA: SharonLee: back in second draft? NINLILA: SharonLee: Those kind of disagreements? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Yeah -- I forgot NINLILA: SteveMiller: Clonak NINLILA: SteveMiller: rose from the mists Ramoth445: Yes, Val Con would be nice and an older Gordy too. NINLILA: SharonLee: and Shadia, dear girl NINLILA: SharonLee: And we did tussle with it NINLILA: SharonLee: A little NINLILA: SteveMiller: And also, su\ometimes about final chapters NINLILA: SharonLee: And it finally came about that Steve had his way NINLILA: SharonLee: But, if it was ever questioned, he NINLILA: SteveMiller: where I don;t always win... NINLILA: SteveMiller: sigh NINLILA: SharonLee: would have to write the story justifying their survival. NINLILA: SharonLee: ...and now you know OnlineHost: Athanor IX has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****Athanor IX, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** Araiused: How do you bring back a dead character? NINLILA: SharonLee: how 'Breath's Duty' came to be written. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Well, yeah... NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ah! Now that's interesting. NINLILA: SharonLee: Some pre-DOI Val Con...probably short stories NINLILA: SharonLee: Aelliana -- much much harder. NINLILA: SteveMiller: older Gordy, heavens NINLILA: SharonLee: It could happen NINLILA: SharonLee: Shan's let him live NINLILA: SharonLee: This long NINLILA: SteveMiller: We'd have to use Splenda... NINLILA: SharonLee: Why? NINLILA: JaniceMars: As collaborators do you find that it's easier to work on novels than short NINLILA: stories together, or do you even bother with the shorter forms? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Gordy is just so seriously himself that he needs to unwwqind NINLILA: SteveMiller: that's unwind NINLILA: SteveMiller: Bother? NINLILA: JaniceMars: And appropo to this current discussion: Araiused: How do you bring back NINLILA: a dead character? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Short stories are the core of the genre NINLILA: SteveMiller: Careful killing NINLILA: SharonLee: Seance? I'm not sure NINLILA: JaniceMars: lol NINLILA: SharonLee: I understand -- aha. NINLILA: DRomm: Prequel! HOST RL Astra: LOL Steve NINLILA: SteveMiller: We rarely kill a major charatcehr in 'person'... NINLILA: SharonLee: No -- in this case -- rewrite. NINLILA: SteveMiller: so the scene that Sharon thought was fatal NINLILA: SteveMiller: had an out that I used... NINLILA: SharonLee: Last year, we wrote four ? short stories, all NINLILA: --- OnlineHost: BLR WIZ has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****BLR WIZ, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** NINLILA: SharonLee: I did once kill Daav. NINLILA: SharonLee: During the course of Scout's Progress. BLR WIZ: Hi Astra, Marz, Old, NINLILA: SteveMiller: Right NINLILA: SharonLee: I got very tired of having him in my head, NINLILA: SteveMiller: and had BLR WIZ: E, Ram, NINLILA: SharonLee: so I had him have a piloting accident and took NINLILA: SteveMiller: imediate orders to put himback,,, BLR WIZ: Ara, Ath NINLILA: SharonLee: the day off. NINLILA: SharonLee: Very relaxing. NINLILA: SteveMiller: not from me NINLILA: bookjunkie: The story of Korval coming to Surebleak? NINLILA: SharonLee: Yes? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Later, that story NINLILA: SteveMiller: we have two years of writing to do now NINLILA: bookjunkie: ok NINLILA: SteveMiller: for the next section NINLILA: SteveMiller: the first section NINLILA: JaniceMars: Al_An_KaHoonah: I thought the method Clonak & Shadia used to escape the DoI NINLILA: was familiiar - are you a doing any 'early Clonak' stories? NINLILA: SharonLee: Aaaaaccckkkkk! Ramoth445: I smell a chapbook NINLILA: SharonLee: Do You KNOW how much NINLILA: SteveMiller: laughs to Minneapolis and back NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: sorry..... NINLILA: SharonLee: Trouble NINLILA: SharonLee: Clonak ter'Meulen NINLILA: SharonLee: Never mind. NINLILA: SteveMiller: No, don;t be sorry NINLILA: SteveMiller: but he's so hard to get right NINLILA: dean: why? NINLILA: SharonLee: And keep right NINLILA: SteveMiller: Clonak is very NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: but he's _fun_! NINLILA: SteveMiller: ...diffiuclt NINLILA: SteveMiller: He is fun OnlineHost: E cat s has left the room. NINLILA: SharonLee: Oh, sure. YOU take him to a bar NINLILA: JaniceMars: lol NINLILA: SteveMiller: but he's not like hardly anyone anyone knows NINLILA: SharonLee: And when he is, he changes NINLILA: SteveMiller: So we have to work through... NINLILA: SteveMiller: if Daav's a natural NINLILA: DRomm: Do your characters take over? Or are YOU firmly in charge? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Clonak is self-made OldWolfGaidin: Evening, BLR NINLILA: SharonLee: It's characters all the way down NINLILA: SharonLee: I'm afraid NINLILA: bookjunkie: I can't believe he taught the Yxtrang poker! NINLILA: SteveMiller: Never firmly in charge NINLILA: JaniceMars: Astra: Question - I heard rumors of all your Liaden chapbook stories may be NINLILA: put into one big book? By Meisha? Please tell me it's true :- NINLILA: SharonLee: Wasn't that Shadia? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Nopr NINLILA: SteveMiller: nope NINLILA: SteveMiller: What may happen NINLILA: SharonLee: That's been a pretty presistent rumor NINLILA: SteveMiller: is that we'll be doing a series of collections NINLILA: SharonLee: I've heard it, myself Araiused: Hi, BlR HOST RL Astra: <--- likes BIG books Ramoth445: lol NINLILA: SteveMiller: but not one big book... NINLILA: JaniceMars: Several small books then? NINLILA: SharonLee: Over a period of time. NINLILA: SharonLee: Maybe. HOST RL Astra: Should I campaign at Meisha? :-) NINLILA: SharonLee: Still in discussion. NINLILA: SteveMiller: There are some rights problems that mean NINLILA: SteveMiller: we can't do them all at once NINLILA: SteveMiller: and besides -- we have more short stuff on the way NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ramoth445: Sharon, will you be writing any more mystery's? NINLILA: SteveMiller: this eyar NINLILA: SteveMiller: this year NINLILA: SharonLee: Yes. I have the second Jen Pierce NINLILA: SharonLee: in first draft -- Gun Shy. And the notes for the NINLILA: SharonLee: next one after --White Sheep. NINLILA: SteveMiller: I've read Gun Shy -- nearly done, IMHO NINLILA: SharonLee: Just need to get the time to work on them Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 8] 1/24/2003 10:30 PM Ramoth445: Excellent!! NINLILA: JaniceMars: OldWolfGaidin: Are Liadens of Terran stock or humanoid aliens? NINLILA: SharonLee: No. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Terran stock? NINLILA: SteveMiller: No NINLILA: SteveMiller: aliens? NINLILA: SteveMiller: No. NINLILA: SharonLee: I'm seeing a recipe here. HOST RL Astra: Terran stock is close to chicken soup? LOL NINLILA: SteveMiller: Same stock... NINLILA: SharonLee: One cup of Terran stock... NINLILA: JaniceMars: LLOLOL NINLILA: SteveMiller: No campiaghn is required NINLILA: SharonLee: No -- campaigning at MM doesn't do it. NINLILA: SharonLee: We need to work with Existing Conditions. NINLILA: SharonLee: Very tiresome, but there it is. BLR WIZ: lol OldWolfGaidin: ! LOL Thank you OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****Ldsdwd, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** HOST RL Astra: re's Ldsd BLR WIZ: Hi Lds OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has left the room. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Al_An_KaHoonah: Sharon - Is being President of SFWA taking a lot of time NINLILA: away from writing? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Wow, my hands are really unfingered tonight NINLILA: SharonLee: Unfortunately. BLR WIZ: We speak Typpoo fluently in this room. NINLILA: JaniceMars: It's a common malady in here tonight Steve. NINLILA: SteveMiller: 4trick question, dear: NINLILA: bookjunkie: Do you have the words to Ausman Overboard? I'd like to sing it at a filk. NINLILA: --- NINLILA: JaniceMars: OldWolfGaidin: How big are your chapbooks compared to regular books? NINLILA: SteveMiller: you, miss NINLILA: Anhayla: Hi! : NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'm assuming OWG means the number of pages... NINLILA: JaniceMars: not the actual physical size. HOST RL Astra: Not just tonight, Marz. Tundaer! OnlineHost: Shadowjakk has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****Shadowjakk, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** Araiused: Hey, Shadow! HOST RL Astra: I think Wolf is pricing them :-) BLR WIZ: hi Shadow Ramoth445: Hey Anhayla OldWolfGaidin: ! Yes, Janice. Sorry, I meant page length Shadowjakk: Hi Astra, Marz, all! :) OldWolfGaidin: Hi, Shadow :-) NINLILA: SharonLee: 'Regular' books, assuming novels are meant, run from 90,000 to 250,000 words NINLILA: and up, oh, my NINLILA: JaniceMars: So a chapbook would hold about the same amount as a novella or a novelette? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Usually close to a novella NINLILA: SteveMiller: In fact, Changeling was a novella ... NINLILA: SteveMiller: and a chapbook NINLILA: SharonLee: in itself NINLILA: JaniceMars: Thanks...so one of your chapbooks is comparable to the story size of one of NINLILA: the old 'golden age' novels then. OldWolfGaidin: ! Thank you, Sharon, Janice and Steve NINLILA: SharonLee: No -- Golden Age novel was about 40,000 words. NINLILA: SharonLee: Certainly, a good chunk of a serial, though. NINLILA: SteveMiller: About thr size of a golden age serial installment or two NINLILA: JaniceMars: Excellent! Thanks. NINLILA: JaniceMars: BLR WIZ: Do recently read books influence your writing? NINLILA: SharonLee: At some point in the writing, I'll switch to non-fiction NINLILA: SteveMiller: chapbooks run 52-64 pages NINLILA: SharonLee: because if I continue to read fiction, Stuff will Leak Over NINLILA: SteveMiller: I read about trains and railroads NINLILA: Anhayla: Hey! : NINLILA: SteveMiller: or I read biographies NINLILA: SharonLee: Whether recently read books influence the story NINLILA: SteveMiller: to keep from stealing stuff accidentally NINLILA: SharonLee: ...who can tell? Araiused: What *is* a chapbook>? NINLILA: DRomm: Watch for upcoming stories set in a chatroom... NINLILA: JaniceMars: Indeed. NINLILA: SharonLee: Pfft! NINLILA: SteveMiller: We did several of those NINLILA: SteveMiller: in pen name NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Um....Didn't you have that in Barnburner? NINLILA: SteveMiller: And... NINLILA: SharonLee: Old-style BBS, yup NINLILA: SteveMiller: there was the story about carrier detected... NINLILA: SharonLee: Sigh. NINLILA: SharonLee: I was a young person, then NINLILA: SteveMiller: in which someone was looking for god... NINLILA: DRomm: BBS's were fun. 300 baud! NINLILA: SteveMiller: anf found the carrier qwve of heaven NINLILA: SteveMiller: that's wave NINLILA: SharonLee: Yes! You can read as fast as it can scroll! NINLILA: SharonLee: Hands off computing! NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL...Steve, Sharon... I want to hear a bit about your current book THE NINLILA: TOMORROW LOG. Can you tell us why we must run out right after chat and pick it up? NINLILA: SteveMiller: On The Tomorrow Log -- NINLILA: SharonLee: Because it's the start of a brand-new series, introducing NINLILA: SharonLee: a brand-new hero and some nifty, gritty kinda stuff NINLILA: SteveMiller: we have Gem -- a thief and ...self-made guy NINLILA: SharonLee: that we couldn't fit into the Liaden side of the universe NINLILA: SteveMiller: who gets himself in trouble... NINLILA: SteveMiller: and the toreuble will grab you... NINLILA: SteveMiller: cat on lap HOST RL Astra: Gem isn't a Liaden?? NINLILA: SteveMiller: that's trouble NINLILA: SharonLee: I wondered where she was... NINLILA: SteveMiller: and... NINLILA: JaniceMars: lololol...we experience the same sort of technical difficulties here as well. NINLILA: SharonLee: he makes the mistake of NINLILA: SteveMiller: we get to play where Liadens never go NINLILA: SharonLee: refusing a commission offered by the local crime boss NINLILA: SharonLee: Bad, BAD mistake. NINLILA: SharonLee: But, not as bad as figuring out that the Ancient Magical OnlineHost: JNRChip has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****JNRChip, welcome to the O*W*C -**** BLR WIZ: hi Chip HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** NINLILA: SharonLee: Artifact he falls heir to NINLILA: SharonLee: can be fixed. NINLILA: SteveMiller: OOOPs... NINLILA: SharonLee: Silly fellow. Araiused: Hey, Chip! JNRChip: Howdy-do. NINLILA: SharonLee: No, no. NINLILA: SharonLee: Not Liaden. OldWolfGaidin: Evening, Chip NINLILA: SharonLee: GenShip stock. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Gem is from a generation ship NINLILA: SharonLee: returning to recipes NINLILA: JaniceMars: I have to tell you what I've read so fat at NINLILA: http://www.meishamerlin.com/TheTomorrowLog.html has really grabbed me. NINLILA: SharonLee: YEAH!!! NINLILA: JaniceMars: I like the mix of high tech and what appears to be magic. Am I correct in NINLILA: assuming that's what's guarding the goodies? NINLILA: SharonLee: We started NINLILA: SteveMiller: What goodies? HOST RL Astra: It's a phat book, Jan? :-) NINLILA: SharonLee: from the old quote attributed to Clarke, that NINLILA: JaniceMars: The Urn...but I don't want to give anything away. NINLILA: SharonLee: Any technology sufficiently advanced is NINLILA: DRomm: Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistiguishable from technology. NINLILA: SharonLee: indistinguishable NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ah! Tres cool!@ NINLILA: SharonLee: from Magic NINLILA: SharonLee: Sigh. advanced technology. NINLILA: SharonLee: Argh. NINLILA: SteveMiller: The thing is NINLILA: SteveMiller: that Gem is not jst a thief Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 10] 1/24/2003 10:45 PM OldWolfGaidin: Is Gem an "expert treasure hunter"? :-) JNRChip: afk NINLILA: SteveMiller: he's a hacker NINLILA: SteveMiller: of his day's tech NINLILA: SteveMiller: And he knows a librarian... OldWolfGaidin: That is most cool, Steve. NINLILA: JaniceMars: So he's one smart cookie. NINLILA: SteveMiller: and librarians are the key to the universe... NINLILA: SharonLee: A slim and elegant 100,000 words NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay, another question here about Liaden....OldWolfGaidin: ? Is a good NINLILA: description of Liaden 'not nasty, not brutish and short?' NINLILA: SteveMiller: We have a problem writing NINLILA: SteveMiller: HUGE books NINLILA: SteveMiller: they don't fit our pacing very well Araiused: What is a "phit" book as opposed to "phat"? :) NINLILA: SteveMiller: HUGE stories NINLILA: SteveMiller: sure... NINLILA: SteveMiller: but not in one volume NINLILA: SharonLee: Some nasty things happen NINLILA: SharonLee: and NINLILA: SharonLee: of course NINLILA: SharonLee: Liadens are never brutish NINLILA: SharonLee: But NINLILA: SharonLee: they are NINLILA: SharonLee: short OldWolfGaidin: ! Thank you, Sharon NINLILA: SteveMiller: cat problem, BRB NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay...while Steve is taking care of the feline predicament... NINLILA: JaniceMars: Araiused: Q. How do you reconcile high tech and magic? NINLILA: --- Araiused: Hisssss JNRChip: bak NINLILA: SharonLee: The cat-who-walks-through-walls was accepted NINLILA: SharonLee: as SF. NINLILA: SharonLee: I wouldn't agree that City feels like magic. NINLILA: DRomm: No? It filled me with Sensawonda. NINLILA: SharonLee: Ah. Does only magic impart sensawonda? OldWolfGaidin: ! Things written in the Stapeldonian galactic scale impart a senswonda. OnlineHost: PMSallume has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****PMSallume, welcome to the O*W*C -**** Araiused: Hi, PMS@ HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** JNRChip: Hiya, PMS NINLILA: SharonLee: Entirely Blown Away by City. BLR WIZ: Hi PMS NINLILA: SteveMiller: ... NINLILA: SteveMiller: and me... NINLILA: JaniceMars: Welcome back Steve. NINLILA: SteveMiller: It got me when I was this high to a grasshopper NINLILA: SteveMiller: so I'm imprinted on it PMSallume: Greetings all!...forgot it was interview night OldWolfGaidin: Evening, PM NINLILA: SharonLee: Tech in the far future shouldn't have to NINLILA: SharonLee: be explained, because the characters live there. NINLILA: SharonLee: I don't explain a toaster when I slot NINLILA: SteveMiller: Our problem NINLILA: SharonLee: my piece of bread in the morning. NINLILA: SharonLee: I know how it works. NINLILA: SteveMiller: with a lot of future sfiction NINLILA: SteveMiller: is the 'as you know Bob' OldWolfGaidin: ! Gene Roddenberry said the same about future tech in "Star Trek". NINLILA: DRomm: I often think about the tech I'm using... but I'm a computer instructor, and plan NINLILA: out how to explain things to people. NINLILA: SteveMiller: explanationss NINLILA: SteveMiller: Howsdoes a fliurescent light work? NINLILA: SharonLee: Different. Different situation. NINLILA: SteveMiller: ooops, NINLILA: SharonLee: Different character. NINLILA: DRomm: Electricity exciting the gas. NINLILA: SteveMiller: c'mon Patia... OnlineHost: rick552aaa has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: ****rick552aaa, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** BLR WIZ: Hi rick rick552aaa: greetings all PMSallume: brb..have to go check on another chat OnlineHost: PMSallume has left the room. Araiused: Hi, Rick rick552aaa: hi HOST RL Marz: Al_An_KaHoonah> Steve - any plans for more poetry? I enjoyed 'Time Rags II' HOST RL Marz: Wow! HOST RL Marz: I have a few more poems around, but I...hesitate to HOST RL Marz: to predict another book, HOST RL Marz: * DRomm explaining quantum mechanics is ALWAYS fun. Did that several times. HOST RL Marz: quick story -- HOST RL Marz: I wrote a lot of poetry for eyars HOST RL Marz: was a traveling poet to school HOST RL Marz: made a living for a year or twom,\, hardscrabble... HOST RL Marz: then one night i wrote a poem to my ex-wife... OnlineHost: PHOTOERC123 has entered the room. HOST RL Marz: and it was the one thing that convinced me to HOST RL Marz: break up with her... HOST RL Marz: been *really* careful HOST RL Marz: about the poems ever since... HOST RL Marz: Extreme Poetry. HOST RL Marz: well - that's understandable. HOST RL Marz: Poems can tell you stuff you don;t want to hear, sometimes,,, HOST RL Marz: Well... HOST RL Marz: thje other thing is that as a *young man* I misused HOST RL Astra: ****PHOTOERC123, welcome to the O*W*C -**** HOST RL Astra: ****tonight we are interviewing authors Lee & Miller **** rick552aaa: good nite all, must be moving along HOST RL Astra: **** If you have a question for Sharon or Steve, please IM it to Astra. Thank you!**** BLR WIZ: Hi PHO HOST RL Astra: Night Rick! HOST RL Marz: the poet persona... HOST RL Marz: I'll say that's another story,,, Araiused: Oh, bolded! OnlineHost: rick552aaa has left the room. OnlineHost: NINLILA has left the room. OnlineHost: NINLILA has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: NIN needs a time out? HOST RL Marz: Yes she did. OnlineHost: PHOTOERC123 has left the room. HOST RL Marz: Okay folks...we'll be going to open chat now. If one of your questions scrolls by HOST RL Marz: please feel free to im it to Astra... HOST RL Marz: so we are sure to get it through for you. OldWolfGaidin: Evening, Marz :-) OnlineHost: Athanor IX has left the room. BLR WIZ: Thanks for stopping by NIN HOST RL Astra: ::: rips tape off chatters mouths ::: BLR WIZ: Hi Ath Araiused: ow ow owowowow HOST RL Astra: Steve and Sharon - Conventions? BLR WIZ: :::::Ouch Astra:::; OldWolfGaidin: Careful, Astra, you'll tear off my whiskers. :-) Araiused: Oh, poor wolf Araiused: A wolf wears a muzzle :0 OnlineHost: PHOTOERC123 has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: Re's PHO Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 10] 1/24/2003 11:00 PM NINLILA: SteveMiller: and it was the one thing that convinced me to Araiused: Re's PHOTO NINLILA: SteveMiller: break up with her... NINLILA: SteveMiller: been really careful NINLILA: SteveMiller: about the poems ever since... NINLILA: DRomm: Extreme Poetry. NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: well - that's understandable. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Poems can tell you stuff you don;t want to hear, sometimes,,, NINLILA: SteveMiller: Well... NINLILA: SteveMiller: thje other thing is that as a young man I misused NINLILA: SteveMiller: the poet persona... NINLILA: SteveMiller: I'll say that's another story,,, NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay folks... NINLILA: SteveMiller: Next? NINLILA: JaniceMars: let's take a quick break here.... NINLILA: JaniceMars: while I reset NINLILA and we go to open chat. NINLILA: SharonLee: Calisthentics! NINLILA: SteveMiller: Catasthentics NINLILA: DRomm: Open chat! NINLILA: SteveMiller: Kodi NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: not at 03:57Z thank You! NINLILA: SteveMiller: that's enough of sitting on my foot... NINLILA: DRomm: G'night Al NINLILA: SteveMiller: and Paita, my lap is numb... NINLILA: bookjunkie: night NINLILA: SharonLee: Night Al An! NINLILA: SteveMiller: cya! NINLILA: SharonLee: Eeek! NINLILA: bookjunkie: open yet? NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: No! I meant the calisthenics ! I'm still here...honest!!!!!!! NINLILA: SharonLee: Oh, rats. NINLILA: SharonLee: We can't NINLILA: SharonLee: talk about Al An NINLILA: SharonLee: Folks NINLILA: SteveMiller: Let's praise the Scots for their fortitude! NINLILA: SharonLee: And the fact that tomorrow NINLILA: SharonLee: is Saturday! NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: I _heard _ that |-/ NINLILA: bookjunkie: yup NINLILA: DRomm: Al can keep a... Tomorrow Log! NINLILA: SteveMiller: Right... NINLILA: bookjunkie: is he a gem? NINLILA: SharonLee: Ooff OnlineHost: PHOTOERC123 has left the room. NINLILA: DRomm: He has facets NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay...and NIn is back on. NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: rough diamon - just ask my wife 8- NINLILA: JaniceMars: I have a question here. NINLILA: Anhayla: Hey, I'm going to see the Omnimax film Space Station tomorrow, I can't wait. : NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ramoth445: Does writing in different genres become difficult to seperate NINLILA: especially when the books are being written at the same time? NINLILA: SteveMiller: We rarely mix books NINLILA: SharonLee: We do sometimes NINLILA: SharonLee: do short stories at the same NINLILA: SteveMiller: At least that we're working on together... NINLILA: SharonLee: time we're writing a novel HOST RL Astra: I keep waiting for NIN to get punted for scrolling. NINLILA: SharonLee: Ok. NINLILA: SharonLee: We often do short stories NINLILA: SharonLee: at Araiused: LOL, Astra NINLILA: SharonLee: the same time we're writing a novel NINLILA: SharonLee: But it's pretty hard to get NINLILA: SharonLee: the storylines confused. NINLILA: SharonLee: Each book has NINLILA: SharonLee: its own voice. HOST RL Marz: She's a good girl...just misunderstood. NINLILA: bookjunkie: Will we ever see Kareen again? NINLILA: SteveMiller: We have worked NINLILA: SharonLee: Not if she sees us first. NINLILA: SteveMiller: on indivdual books HOST RL Astra: LOL Sharon OldWolfGaidin: I've been reading the sample chapters at Meisha Merlin and I like what I've read so far. NINLILA: SteveMiller: at the same time NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL Sharon. NINLILA: SteveMiller: but that's a different thing, I think Shadowjakk: They've got a huge, full-color fold-out spread in Locus this month, Wolf. NINLILA: SharonLee: Misunderstood, I'll allow. NINLILA: SteveMiller: I have a soft spot for the Kinzel stuff... NINLILA: SharonLee: Good? NINLILA: SharonLee: She's of Korval. NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Yes! Any more Kinzel coming up in your _copious_ spare time? OnlineHost: STARMOM79 has entered the room. BLR WIZ: Sounds kinky Shadow. Araiused: Hey STAR OldWolfGaidin: Neat, Shadow. I was thinking of picking up Locus this month or next BLR WIZ: Hi STAR STARMOM79: Hello all STARMOM79: Hi, Ara, BLR HOST RL Astra: Hi, STAR ! Open chat with authors Steve Miller and Sahron Lee tonight! JNRChip: Hiya, STAR OldWolfGaidin: Hello, Starmom. HOST RL Astra: Sheesh. Good old typos STARMOM79: It snowed here today Ramoth445: Hi star OldWolfGaidin: Shadow, is that the issue with Connie Willis on the cover? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Kinzel... I've got a slow fantasy novel working... NINLILA: SharonLee: Oh, dear. NINLILA: SharonLee: Aelliana. NINLILA: SharonLee: Miri. STARMOM79: Hi Chip,OWG, Ramoth NINLILA: SteveMiller: Identify with is dangerous... Shadowjakk: LOL, BLR. Yeah, Meisha-Merlin is the centerfold. HOST RL Astra: Yes, Wolf Araiused: STAR, we're having a blizzard. Shadowjakk: Yup, Wolf. Araiused: Snarled up the traffic. OldWolfGaidin: Hm...I may still be able to pick it up. STARMOM79: I'm in Florida OldWolfGaidin: thanks, Astra, Shadow NINLILA: SteveMiller: Klonak NINLILA: SharonLee: Nelirikk, of course. NINLILA: SharonLee: Don't you? NINLILA: bookjunkie: Plan B and being kicked off Liad must have shaken Kareen's world to its NINLILA: foundations NINLILA: DRomm: Hmm... NINLILA: SharonLee: I think Kareen will do well on Surebleak, BLR WIZ: We were down to 0 yesterday... burrr NINLILA: bookjunkie: I id with aelli NINLILA: SharonLee: myself. NINLILA: SteveMiller: The Kareen story of the split HOST RL Astra: Was 80 here today. Will be hotter for Superboawl, they say. JNRChip: :::beating the daylights outta Astra::: Araiused: BLR, temp will go down to -22 F tonight BLR WIZ: Ouch Ara HOST RL Astra: ow ow ow ow ow NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Oh yes... I want to see what happens with the 'Breeding pair'. NINLILA: SteveMiller: with Liad had to be put aside STARMOM79: 27 here. That's just not right! NINLILA: SharonLee: The scene of her meeting Ms. Audrey has NINLILA: SteveMiller: because of the original Del Rey NINLILA: SharonLee: real potential. NINLILA: SteveMiller: insistence that we change the sotry... Ramoth445: 17 here in RI JNRChip: I started whining about the cold last week, and now I'm so high- JNRChip: pitched only dogs can hear me. HOST RL Astra: LOLOL BLR WIZ: LOL OldWolfGaidin: lol Araiused: Why is Astra getting beat up? NINLILA: --- Araiused: ;) JNRChip: She's bragging about California weather, Ara. JNRChip: Which is impolite at the best of times. Araiused: Superbowl in California? HOST RL Astra: Was not bragging. Stating fact :-) JNRChip: Uh-huh. NINLILA: bookjunkie: g: BLR WIZ: I will keep the snow. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Cat's Job chapbook NINLILA: SharonLee: This is a good thing. NINLILA: SharonLee: Meisha Merlin did put up a good NINLILA: SharonLee: big chunk of sample. NINLILA: DRomm: Which caracters if any do you identify with most? NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Blast I should have got you to send that at the same time 8- NINLILA: SteveMiller: Kinzel... I've got a slow fantasy novel working... NINLILA: SharonLee: Oh, dear. Ramoth445: She was rubbing it in is what she was doing NINLILA: SharonLee: Aelliana. NINLILA: SharonLee: Miri. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Identify with is dangerous... BLR WIZ: Astra can keep the earth quakes. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Klonak STARMOM79: Once they fall of the continent after the fault gives way, we won't have to listen to them anymore NINLILA: SharonLee: Nelirikk, of course. NINLILA: SharonLee: Don't you? NINLILA: bookjunkie: Plan B and being kicked off Liad must have shaken Kareen's world to its NINLILA: foundations NINLILA: DRomm: Hmm... JNRChip: LOL Ram. Exactly. NINLILA: SharonLee: I think Kareen will do well on Surebleak, NINLILA: bookjunkie: I id with aelli NINLILA: SharonLee: myself. NINLILA: SteveMiller: The Kareen story of the split NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Oh yes... I want to see what happens with the 'Breeding pair'. NINLILA: SteveMiller: with Liad had to be put aside NINLILA: SharonLee: The scene of her meeting Ms. Audrey has NINLILA: SteveMiller: because of the original Del Rey NINLILA: SharonLee: real potential. NINLILA: SteveMiller: insistence that we change the sotry... NINLILA: bookjunkie: wanna read that story! NINLILA: SteveMiller: ... NINLILA: SharonLee: Soon, soon.... NINLILA: SteveMiller: In Maine we have a clear night NINLILA: SharonLee: but a little chilly NINLILA: SteveMiller: warm, too -- almost O STARMOM79: deja vu? NINLILA: SharonLee: Give 'em a break -- they're southerners NINLILA: bookjunkie: where are you that it's 80? NINLILA: SteveMiller: I have to laugh at my fatehr, who art in Tampa NINLILA: bookjunkie: it's 15 here in 'bama Araiused: Oh, BTW, Stress of Her Regard started slow but it's getting very, very interesting now. JNRChip: Good, Ara. NINLILA: SteveMiller: so he won;t get cold... NINLILA: DRomm: I think we got up to 5 today. NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Ayrshire is wet & windy this early morning - but mild - about 8C NINLILA: SteveMiller: So... NINLILA: SharonLee: It was hot today -- up to 20 F NINLILA: JaniceMars: I have a question about Tommorrow Log... NINLILA: SteveMiller: Superbore? NINLILA: SharonLee: OK... NINLILA: SteveMiller: Go NINLILA: JaniceMars: why did you choose spider type machines for Gem? NINLILA: Anhayla: I guess I shouldn't mention that we're looking at 70 tomorrow in Vegas. g: NINLILA: JaniceMars: Is it a kind of reflection on him personality? Araiused: 70? That's insane. NINLILA: SharonLee: My fault. I have an affinity for spiders and NINLILA: SharonLee: you see them everywhere NINLILA: SharonLee: so they're the NINLILA: SharonLee: perfect NINLILA: SharonLee: spy machines. STARMOM79: That is what our normal high should be around this time of year NINLILA: SteveMiller: We're legends STARMOM79: I think spiders were a good choice, agile, small, quick JNRChip: Cute. :) NINLILA: bookjunkie: it's 15 here in 'bama NINLILA: SteveMiller: so he won;t get cold... NINLILA: DRomm: I think we got up to 5 today. NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Ayrshire is wet & windy this early morning - but mild - about 8C NINLILA: SteveMiller: So... NINLILA: SharonLee: It was hot today -- up to 20 F NINLILA: JaniceMars: I have a question about Tommorrow Log... NINLILA: SteveMiller: Superbore? NINLILA: SharonLee: OK... NINLILA: SteveMiller: Go NINLILA: JaniceMars: why did you choose spider type machines for Gem? NINLILA: Anhayla: I guess I shouldn't mention that we're looking at 70 tomorrow in Vegas. g: Shadowjakk: As Alanis said about STRESS, Ara. "Isn't it Byronic?" NINLILA: JaniceMars: Is it a kind of reflection on him personality? NINLILA: SharonLee: My fault. I have an affinity for spiders and NINLILA: SharonLee: you see them everywhere NINLILA: SharonLee: so they're the NINLILA: SharonLee: perfect OnlineHost: Athanor IX has entered the room. NINLILA: SharonLee: spy machines. NINLILA: SteveMiller: We're legends JNRChip: Shadow!!! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Indeed. NINLILA: SteveMiller: among family NINLILA: bookjunkie: another question about ttl? NINLILA: SteveMiller: for being nice to the spiders in our hiuse NINLILA: SharonLee: OK JNRChip: Hiya Ath NINLILA: bookjunkie: what about gem's family ? NINLILA: SteveMiller: ? NINLILA: SharonLee: Rephrase? NINLILA: JaniceMars: Something specific you want to know about gem's family? NINLILA: JaniceMars: Bookjunkie? STARMOM79: Hi, Ath NINLILA: bookjunkie: he was called captain Araiused: Re's Ath NINLILA: bookjunkie: yes? NINLILA: SharonLee: Right Athanor IX: Hi. NINLILA: bookjunkie: does he ever reunite with his ship? NINLILA: SharonLee: Oh-Ho. NINLILA: SharonLee: That NINLILA: SharonLee: Would be NINLILA: SharonLee: Telling NINLILA: JaniceMars: Oh, okay...you want to know the book before you buy it? HOST RL Astra: LOL Sharon Araiused: Geez, Shadow BLR WIZ: I used to be NINLILA: bookjunkie: does he get balance for what his uncle did NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOLOLOLOL! NINLILA: SteveMiller: He's not Liadne, after all... NINLILA: bookjunkie: I've already paid for it!!!! NINLILA: SteveMiller: or doe we all expect balance now? NINLILA: bookjunkie: so not balance but y'know NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'm sorry bookjunkie. My sincere apologies for any false aspersions sp I may NINLILA: have spread there. NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: so download it from Embiid 8- I did! NINLILA: SteveMiller: About spiders NINLILA: SharonLee: This is true. NINLILA: bookjunkie: the whole thing is there? NINLILA: SharonLee: And then you NINLILA: SharonLee: Can know. OldWolfGaidin: I've had a fear of spiders for a long, long time. NINLILA: Al_An_KaHoonah: Yes! NINLILA: SharonLee: Yup. NINLILA: SteveMiller: they arean excellent design for mobility... NINLILA: SharonLee: Been there since -- July? NINLILA: JaniceMars: Speaking of eBooks....what made you two decide to offer your books NINLILA: electronically? NINLILA: SteveMiller: We've been doing ebooks for al ong time BLR WIZ: i used to be Conan the Librian. Read this book or else ;) Araiused: LOL, BLR NINLILA: SteveMiller: Back in the late 80s we were BPLAN Virtuals -- NINLILA: SteveMiller: among the first ebooks available NINLILA: DRomm: Still in fanzine mode, eh? NINLILA: JaniceMars: BPLAN Virutals? Sorry... I'm a relative newbie compaired to you two. NINLILA: --- OldWolfGaidin: I really do think it's cool that Gem is being assisted by a librarian. Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 11] 1/24/2003 11:15 PM NINLILA: SteveMiller: before there was Win 98... NINLILA: JaniceMars: O cool...so a BPLAN Virtual is a text only book? NINLILA: bookjunkie: win 3.1? NINLILA: SteveMiller: And so... NINLILA: SteveMiller: we started offering ... NINLILA: SharonLee: Ours are Very Nice spiders. Mechanical. Pretty. NINLILA: SteveMiller: and almost went bankrupt NINLILA: SteveMiller: BPLAN Virtuals was a series of books -- ebooks, -- NINLILA: SteveMiller: or as I coined the phrase -- OldWolfGaidin: Mechanical spiders? I'm having flashbacks to "Runaway". ;-) NINLILA: SteveMiller: disk-top publishing NINLILA: SharonLee: Before win 3.1. DOS NINLILA: SharonLee: DOS HOST RL Astra: I think spiders, I think Selleck's spiders with needles movie. Ick. OldWolfGaidin: gmta Astra HOST RL Astra: GMTA, Wolf, LOL OldWolfGaidin: and Gene Simmons' tongue. :-p Araiused: Needles and spiders? double ick NINLILA: SteveMiller: Reviewd in all the good spots NINLILA: SteveMiller: Analog Araiused: He has a tongue? NINLILA: SteveMiller: PCWorld NINLILA: SteveMiller: and sold all of 250 copies NINLILA: SteveMiller: acorss 6 books JNRChip: Ara, it could be a B-movie monster all by itself. OldWolfGaidin: Gene Simmons has enough tongue for two people, Ara. OldWolfGaidin: lol Chip HOST RL Astra: Sharon - are the spiders also weapons? NINLILA: JaniceMars: You almost went bankrupt? What were you charging for them...or was there NINLILA: something else like piracy getting in the way? NINLILA: SharonLee: Nobody wanted NINLILA: SharonLee: to read books NINLILA: SharonLee: on a computer screen. NINLILA: SharonLee: To be just NINLILA: SharonLee: Remember what computer screens NINLILA: SharonLee: Were like NINLILA: SharonLee: in 1989 HOST RL Astra: Small. Athanor IX: I remember the eye-destroying flicker of my Amiga's interlaced display. Araiused: They were horrible. NINLILA: SharonLee: Don't know either 'Runaway' or Selleck's needle movie. NINLILA: SharonLee: We don't get NINLILA: SteveMiller: when Embiid asked... NINLILA: SharonLee: out much NINLILA: SteveMiller: we thought a long time before saying yes NINLILA: SteveMiller: but they do a good job... NINLILA: DRomm: Steve: Walking to Marscon? NINLILA: SteveMiller: Training NINLILA: SharonLee: Maybe car, if they yank the train. Shadowjakk: RUNWAY and DEEPNESS, Wolf. To quote Ziggy: o/~ ...and where were the spiders?...o/~ OnlineHost: Taliban2k2 has entered the room. NINLILA: DRomm: Marscon is fun. You'll like being GoHs. NINLILA: SteveMiller: First to Uncle Hugo's OnlineHost: Taliban2k2 has left the room. OldWolfGaidin: *heh* Shadow Araiused: Squidzooka! BLR WIZ: Rasing anti Squid sheild. NINLILA: SharonLee: It sounds like it will be fun NINLILA: SharonLee: Christine NINLILA: JaniceMars: Speaking of conventinos. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Speaking of conventions... NINLILA: dean: When at Uncle Hugos? OldWolfGaidin: Spider-zilla! :-) NINLILA: SharonLee: has been very involved NINLILA: JaniceMars: we have quite a few convention junkies here... NINLILA: SharonLee: Thursday night at Unc Hugo NINLILA: SteveMiller: hmmm at Hugo Thursday before the con NINLILA: JaniceMars: You're going to be GOH's at MarsCon...what other conventions will you... NINLILA: JaniceMars: be attending? NINLILA: SharonLee: Spiders -- weapons. NINLILA: SharonLee: Um. NINLILA: SharonLee: ... NINLILA: SteveMiller: We're going to be GoH at BaltiCon, and we'll be at TorCon NINLILA: SharonLee: That Would Be Telling NINLILA: SteveMiller: and likely World Fantasy... OnlineHost: T83BIRD has entered the room. Araiused: Hi, T JNRChip: Hi, T8 BLR WIZ: Hi T8 Shadowjakk: Hi T8. Araiused: Aaaah, TorCon :) NINLILA: SteveMiller: adn then others, as invited... NINLILA: SteveMiller: Boskone first though... NINLILA: SharonLee: and GoHs at Marscon NINLILA: SharonLee: And the Nebulas, as NINLILA: SharonLee: Official Duty HOST RL Astra: Hi, T! Open chat with authors Steve Miller and Sharon Lee tonight! NINLILA: bookjunkie: Dragoncon? T83BIRD: Hi, all. HOST RL Astra: DragonCon is same time as TorCon, I believe BLR WIZ: Where is Marscon? OldWolfGaidin: Hi, T-bird NINLILA: JaniceMars: So that's four seperate conventions fans can expect to see you. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Nope NINLILA: SharonLee: Nope, falls on WorldCon's dates NINLILA: SteveMiller: Dragoncon is against worldcon... NINLILA: SteveMiller: we won;t be there NINLILA: JaniceMars: Doesn't Dragoncon still conflict with Worldcon? NINLILA: SteveMiller: as long as it's against worldcon Shadowjakk: Usually is. NINLILA: bookjunkie: yup forgot NINLILA: SteveMiller: WorldCon is .. where the fans are.. NINLILA: SharonLee: ...Boskone,Marscon, Nebulas, Balticon,WorldCon, World Fantasy NINLILA: JaniceMars: Indeed. NINLILA: bookjunkie: any southern cons at all? NINLILA: SharonLee: Six, I make that. NINLILA: JaniceMars: That's quite a line up of conventions. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Southern? NINLILA: SharonLee: We live in Maine! NINLILA: SteveMiller: No one's invited usthis year... Araiused: Wow, year round of conventions! STARMOM79: Hi, T Araiused: I like that lifestyle :) OnlineHost: KNITEMARE87 has entered the room. Araiused: Hi, KNITE Shadowjakk: Hi KNITE. HOST RL Astra: I'll suggest y'all for GOH at a LosCon. Get you to the West Coast again. STARMOM79: Hi, Knite T83BIRD: Hi KNITE BLR WIZ: Hi KNITE JNRChip: Hi, KNITE OldWolfGaidin: I'm still boggling at books with tens of thousands of words in them. HOST RL Astra: Hi, Knite ! Open chat with authors Steve Miller and Sharon Lee tonight! NINLILA: JaniceMars: You write on the road then? Laptops? Longhand? NINLILA: SharonLee: We're not south of Toronto? NINLILA: SharonLee: How did that happen? NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL, Sharon. NINLILA: SteveMiller: Are we? NINLILA: DRomm: BLR: www.marscon.org NINLILA: SharonLee: Laptop. I can't read my own writing any more STARMOM79: Well, there is Mega Con in Orlando next month and maybe Balticon in May KNITEMARE87: Hello aHello all NINLILA: SharonLee: And I type almost as fast NINLILA: SharonLee: as I think NINLILA: SteveMiller: I'll check that lattitude... OldWolfGaidin: Hello, Knite. Are you feeling better? BLR WIZ: Thanks NIN. I am a few hours drive from Mars, Pa... HOST RL Astra: Two *very* different kinds of cons, STAR :-) KNITEMARE87: Not really =( Araiused: KNITE sick? OldWolfGaidin: Aw, shucks, Knite. :-\ KNITEMARE87: Very NINLILA: JaniceMars: That's cool. And you don't find the smaller keyboard inhibits the muse at NINLILA: all? NINLILA: SteveMiller: On the road i sue my Visor or my laptop NINLILA: DRomm: Keeps your lawyers busy. Araiused: flu? NINLILA: SharonLee: I'm not sure the laptop has that small a keyboard NINLILA: SteveMiller: Sigh... getting late .. no cat to blame STARMOM79: I know. I'm just popping in to Megacon. The only writer I know who will be there is Salvatore NINLILA: SteveMiller: Visor or laptop NINLILA: JaniceMars: You write your stories using Grafiti? I'm very impressed. T83BIRD: Sharon, I type almost as fast as the tortoise in the tortoise and the hare. KNITEMARE87: I dont know ara, i have been throwing up a lot over the last few days. NINLILA: --- Araiused: Eeek, stomach bugs STARMOM79: Teah, T, but the tortoise won the race KNITEMARE87: I cant eat much, but i can drink water now. I have been living off of popsicles and 7-up HOST RL Astra: For those of you who missed it earlier, you can read some of Steve and Sharon's writing at www.korval.com OldWolfGaidin: How the heck do writers produce stories that are thousands of words long? STARMOM79: Yeah OldWolfGaidin: I go to write a story and I get two hundred words. :-p HOST RL Astra: Wolf - Energizerwriters BLR WIZ: Ouch K NINLILA: SteveMiller: We'll be at BaltiCon... NINLILA: SharonLee: Great! I'd love to get to the West Coast again! NINLILA: SteveMiller: My home convention -- Araiused: Sit, don't move and write, OldWolf OldWolfGaidin: lol Astra T83BIRD: That doesn't happen in chat rooms, STAR. You get too far behind. Shadowjakk: Good thing you're not a pulp writer, Wolf. OldWolfGaidin: ::thud:: KNITEMARE87: The west coast is great OldWolfGaidin: It is, Shadow. If I were a pulp writer, I'd drink coffee, smoke cheap cigars and put out drek. :-) NINLILA: SteveMiller: We'll be at BaltiCon... NINLILA: SharonLee: Great! I'd love to get to the West Coast again! NINLILA: SteveMiller: My home convention -- T83BIRD: Look how far after your remark my response appeared,STAR. Shadowjakk: At a penny a word. :) Araiused: Yeah, yah, NIN, we hear ya OldWolfGaidin: I wish I could get paid as much as a penny a word. ;-) NINLILA: SteveMiller: I sued to be Director of information for BSFS BLR WIZ: SHADOW< then use short words.\ NINLILA: SharonLee: How many words did you think a book had in it? NINLILA: DRomm: Balticons were good when I was going to them mid 70s. NINLILA: SharonLee: They were still good in the mid 80s NINLILA: JaniceMars: Steve and Sharon... you say that you have notes and some chapters written of NINLILA: the sequel to The Tomorrow Log... NINLILA: SteveMiller: We had fun and the NINLILA: SteveMiller: people coming had fun NINLILA: SteveMiller: that's what it is about, right? NINLILA: SharonLee: We have notes for the second NINLILA: SharonLee: Gem ser Edreth book STARMOM79: lol NINLILA: SharonLee: tentatively titled NINLILA: SharonLee: _The Trident of the Bindalche_ NINLILA: SharonLee: and NINLILA: SharonLee: also NINLILA: JaniceMars: Do you approach all of your stories as world building? NINLILA: DRomm: Steve: Indeed. Cons are for fun. And making connections old and new. KNITEMARE87: I drink coffe, smoke not expensive cigars, and what i put out could almost be called drek STARMOM79: Slow and steady, T. Slow and steady OldWolfGaidin: I only had a vague idea, Sharon. I've seen the Nebula category outlines. HOST RL Astra: Sharon and Steve - do you keep a Liaden dictionary handy? I get the names and words all mixed up, LOL T83BIRD: afk OldWolfGaidin: After forty thousand words I only think "Big book!" :-) HOST RL Astra: I'm lucky to remember 'Shan' NINLILA: SteveMiller: I sued to be Director of information for BSFS NINLILA: SharonLee: How many words did you think a book had in it? NINLILA: DRomm: Balticons were good when I was going to them mid 70s. NINLILA: SharonLee: They were still good in the mid 80s NINLILA: JaniceMars: Steve and Sharon... you say that you have notes and some chapters written of NINLILA: the sequel to The Tomorrow Log... NINLILA: SteveMiller: We had fun and the NINLILA: SteveMiller: people coming had fun NINLILA: SteveMiller: that's what it is about, right? NINLILA: SharonLee: We have notes for the second NINLILA: SharonLee: Gem ser Edreth book NINLILA: SharonLee: tentatively titled NINLILA: SharonLee: _The Trident of the Bindalche_ NINLILA: SharonLee: and NINLILA: SharonLee: also NINLILA: JaniceMars: Do you approach all of your stories as world building? NINLILA: DRomm: Steve: Indeed. Cons are for fun. And making connections old and new. HOST RL Astra: NIn's got the hiccups again :-) T83BIRD: Nin is repeating herself. Araiused: Deja Vu Shadowjakk: It's all a matter of perspective, Wolf. After 40,000 words, Jordan thinks: "Better end the preface here." Ramoth445: I've noticed :) HOST RL Astra: LOL Shadow OldWolfGaidin: Somebody give Nin some virtual ginger ale. :-) KNITEMARE87: LOL KNITEMARE87: Or pat her on the back OldWolfGaidin: lol Shadow. Sad, but true. :-) HOST RL Marz: Okay folks...sorry...but I've got some technical difficulties here. T83BIRD: Nah, Shadow. He thinks, "Better *begin* the preface now." JNRChip: LOL Shadow BLR WIZ: Jordon is responsable for deforesting a rain forest. OldWolfGaidin: rofl, T-bird T83BIRD: thx OWG Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 13] 1/24/2003 11:30 PM Athanor IX: He thinks: "This'll show that tree I fell out of when I was 6." JNRChip: LOLOL Ath OldWolfGaidin: lol Ath BLR WIZ: lol Araiused: Just threaten NIN with a screwdriver KNITEMARE87: LOLLOL Shadowjakk: LOL HOST RL Astra: NIN's done good. She just gets tired like any young'un Araiused: LOL, Ath OldWolfGaidin: lol Ara T83BIRD: LOL Ara OldWolfGaidin: Or threaten her with a recompile :-) JNRChip: It's a shame you can't threaten people with that, Old. JNRChip: I'd love to edit a few subroutines out of some of my co-workers, and recompile them. OldWolfGaidin: You can, Chip. It's called "intensive therapy". :-) Araiused: Or a defrag OldWolfGaidin: lol KNITEMARE87: I have never used that one as a threat HOST RL Marz: Okay...folks. I'm going to have to apologize. Ninlila just revolted. HOST RL Astra: Missed - Sharon and Steve - do you keep a Liaden dictionary handy? I get the names and words all mixed up, LOL HOST RL Astra: Oh. Never mind :/ HOST RL Marz: But if you do have any questions for Sharon and Steve...send them to Astra and I'll relay them by hand. OnlineHost: Johng6868 has entered the room. OldWolfGaidin: Thank you, Marz BLR WIZ: afk HOST RL Astra: Hi, John ! Open chat with authors Steve Miller and Sharon Lee tonight! KNITEMARE87: Great marz, always looking out for the welfare of fellow chatters T83BIRD: Fractured computer term: subroutines -- ordinary ways of making large oval sandwiches. OnlineHost: DerHexer has entered the room. JNRChip: Hiya, Der T83BIRD: Hey Ger DerHexer: Hi all KNITEMARE87: Wow, getting crowded tonight Araiused: Hi, Der HOST RL Marz: They are fast enough to bust the chops of those that do not pay them on time HOST RL Marz: Problem of being in bizness. HOST RL Marz: is that we front books to bookstores HOST RL Marz: They take delivery of the books, may even sell them, but don't pay on time HOST RL Marz: some of which fail to pay. HOST RL Astra: Hi, Der ! Open chat with authors Steve Miller and Sharon Lee tonight! HOST RL Marz: Or to pay timely. OldWolfGaidin: lol T-bird OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: Re's Ldsd HOST RL Marz: Not all bookstores all of the time HOST RL Marz: We've gone to conventions HOST RL Marz: Nor even some bookstores some of the time HOST RL Marz: where a bookseller would give us a check HOST RL Marz: to be put in the bank Araiused: Re's Lds HOST RL Marz: later... HOST RL Marz: Not many HOST RL Marz: The small independents are the best. HOST RL Marz: Go figure. OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has left the room. DerHexer: I'll just elbow Ara and Chip out of the way to get to the bar T83BIRD: thx OWG HOST RL Marz: but some just can;t HOST RL Marz: get it all together... HOST RL Marz: Do you sell your books over your web site? HOST RL Marz: Sure do HOST RL Marz: Sure. HOST RL Marz: www.korval.com HOST RL Marz: with paypal or with ccnow HOST RL Marz: or print the order and mail it in... HOST RL Marz: I used to like BooksAMillion they paid small presses upfront JNRChip: LOL Der HOST RL Marz: How is ccnow working out for you? HOST RL Marz: CCNOW is OK... HOST RL Marz: but OnlineHost: Johng6868 has left the room. OnlineHost: KNITEMARE87 has left the room. HOST RL Marz: they take longer than Paypal tp pay HOST RL Marz: and take a bigger cut... HOST RL Marz: Places like amazon.com must be great for you: Don't have to deal with recalcitrant booksellers. HOST RL Marz: still very useful for us. HOST RL Marz: Yeah, that's what I keep hearing about ccnow HOST RL Marz: Except for Amazon? HOST RL Marz: CCNOW is good for starting out HOST RL Astra: So it sounds like you get to keep more of the money if we print out the order form and send a check. HOST RL Marz: and for people who don't HOST RL Marz: want to keep records of I can't write a Liaden book today, silly rabbit HOST RL Marz: other people's credit card numbers HOST RL Marz: * DRomm will pay you Tuesday for a Liaden book today. JNRChip: Oy. I have hit the wall, and have brick flecks in my gums. I'm JNRChip: gonna wander off. Thanks for the chat, Astra and Marz! Night, HOST RL Marz: I can't write a Liaden book today, silly rabbit JNRChip: all! :) HOST RL Marz: we've heard *that* before... DerHexer: Excuse, does Marz have some sort of split pesonality? I mean more than usual? HOST RL Astra: Night Chip! OnlineHost: JNRChip has left the room. HOST RL Astra: Der - the authors are in an internet room. T83BIRD: Nite chip DerHexer: I know. Was kidding Araiused: Nite, Chip STARMOM79: nite, Chip NINLILA: SteveMiller: I sued to be Director of information for BSFS NINLILA: SharonLee: How many words did you think a book had in it? NINLILA: DRomm: Balticons were good when I was going to them mid 70s. NINLILA: SharonLee: They were still good in the mid 80s NINLILA: JaniceMars: Steve and Sharon... you say that you have notes and some chapters written of NINLILA: the sequel to The Tomorrow Log... NINLILA: SteveMiller: We had fun and the NINLILA: SteveMiller: people coming had fun NINLILA: SteveMiller: that's what it is about, right? NINLILA: SharonLee: We have notes for the second NINLILA: SharonLee: Gem ser Edreth book NINLILA: SharonLee: tentatively titled NINLILA: SharonLee: _The Trident of the Bindalche_ NINLILA: SharonLee: and Shadowjakk: Now now, Der. Be Sybil. NINLILA: SharonLee: also NINLILA: JaniceMars: Do you approach all of your stories as world building? NINLILA: DRomm: Steve: Indeed. Cons are for fun. And making connections old and new. HOST RL Astra: ::: sends NIN to the corner ::: DerHexer: LOL Shadow Ramoth445: LOL astra T83BIRD: NIN has *deja vu all over again.* Araiused: NIN is being fed too many lines :) HOST RL Astra: Want a book to keep you awake? Get Partners in Necessity. I had red eyes at work for 4 days, LOL T83BIRD: Lotsa women complain about that, Ara. BLR WIZ: bak Araiused: Partners in Necessity? Hmmm HOST RL Astra: It's actually 2 books in one, Ara. Ramoth445: It's a very good book and worth getting. DerHexer: Vhat is Partners about?? HOST RL Astra: Rip roaring space opera, Der HOST RL Astra: With a lot of mayhem thrown in DerHexer: Great. I like space opera, like Fire On The Deep BLR WIZ: Fire was a great book Der DerHexer: What happened to our guests?? T83BIRD: NIN hiccuped, Der. HOST RL Marz: My apologies, but nin coughed her last wheeze. HOST RL Astra: NIN is being stubborn. Besides, they've been here over 90 minutes. OldWolfGaidin: Fire on the Deep is on my TBR list. OldWolfGaidin: Marz, Nin did gamely this evening. Araiused: Read Deepness in the Sky first, OldWolf, the prequel HOST RL Marz: SharonLee> PiN kept you awake? HOST RL Marz: And it's such a *relaxing* book! HOST RL Astra: HA! BLR WIZ: Then you have a delightful experience waiting on your Wolf Shadowjakk: Yup, Ara. And you know what happens when one does too many lines, no? OldWolfGaidin: I've been told to read A Fire on the Deep, first. HOST RL Astra: "What's gonna happen next? What's gonna happen next?!?!?!" OnlineHost: RAWoodward has entered the room. T83BIRD: Hi RAW Araiused: Hi, RAW OldWolfGaidin: Besides, I also want to read True Names. HOST RL Astra: Hi, RAW ! Open chat with authors Steve Miller and Sharon Lee tonight! BLR WIZ: Hi RAW HOST RL Marz: Astra, is that about Partners? Araiused: I read Deepness first HOST RL Marz: What's going to happen next? HOST RL Astra: Yes, Marz! Shadowjakk: I got TN for Xmas, Wolf. Shadowjakk: Still haven't read it, though. Araiused: One falls over, Shadow? DerHexer: True Names is a great short story. You can find it in Colected Short Stories of Vernor Vinge RAWoodward: Actually, you don't HOST RL Marz: next? HOST RL Marz: I don't understand DerHexer: Hi RAW HOST RL Marz: the question. Shadowjakk: One can fall over, yes. But it feels like an hour before you hit the floor. :) HOST RL Marz: Next from Partners is HOST RL Marz: Plan B Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 13] 1/24/2003 11:45 PM RAWoodward: "True Names" is in _True Names and the Opening...._ BLR WIZ: True Names? Is that where you find out your Hobbit name or Pirate name?? HOST RL Astra: No no. I meant that's what happened while I read it, and tried to go to sleep! LOL Shadowjakk: TOR reprinted it in 2001. HOST RL Astra: I couldn'r stop at just ONE chapter a night! Shadowjakk: The anthology. Shadowjakk: Frenkel's. DerHexer: Aside from the story, the anthology True Names and The Opening... was disappointing Shadowjakk: The anthology title is.... RAWoodward: I do have a question for Lee and Miller: Is there a concordance HOST RL Marz: Folks...the authors are leaving over there now... HOST RL Marz: So if you want to say goodnight... I'll transfer your fairwells. DerHexer: Good night, Steve and Sharon. Shadowjakk: TRUE NAMES and the opening of the cyberspace frontier. Araiused: A question from RAW RAWoodward: of which minor characters appear in which books T83BIRD: Nite Steve and Sharon Shadowjakk: Night, authors! :) HOST RL Astra: Folks, it looks like NIN won't co-operate ... so everybody give S&S a big hand, and Marz will relay our thanks! Araiused: Thank you, Steve and Sharon BLR WIZ: Thanks for stopping by. Come back sometime? OldWolfGaidin: "True Names" oddly enough is not in The Collected Stories, according to Amazon.com. STARMOM79: Nite HOST RL Astra: Thanks, Steve and Sharon! See ya at Torcon!!!!!! HOST RL Marz: bye AOL! OldWolfGaidin: Thank you Steve and Sharon HOST RL Marz: bye guys DerHexer: Well, OWG, Amazon is wrong OldWolfGaidin: Oops OnlineHost: TXCatz has entered the room. OnlineHost: NINLILA has left the room. T83BIRD: Hi TDC OnlineHost: TXCatz has left the room. OnlineHost: TXCatz has entered the room. OnlineHost: TXCatz has left the room. OnlineHost: TXCatz has entered the room. OnlineHost: TXCatz has left the room. OnlineHost: TXCatz has entered the room. BLR WIZ: Hi TX OnlineHost: TXCatz has left the room. OnlineHost: TXCatz has entered the room. T83BIRD: TXC I mean OnlineHost: HOST RL Marz has left the room. Araiused: Stop that DerHexer: Oops, TXCatz is caught in the revolving door OnlineHost: TXCatz has left the room. Ramoth445: NIte HOST RL Astra: *** T83BIRD: Nite Marz thanks HOST RL Astra: Tomorrow night in SF General, 9 PM to 11 PM ET Araiused: Nite, Ram HOST RL Astra: *** HOST RL Astra: "Bob Seger Wishes / He Could Match These Here Lyrics / Old Time SciFiKu" SciFiKu Returns to SF General with HOST RL Mystik! HOST RL Astra: *** HOST RL Astra: *** HOST RL Astra: Tomorrow night in the O*W*C, 10 PM to 12 AM ET HOST RL Astra: *** HOST RL Astra: Science fiction is rooted in science fact, and most fans maintain a HOST RL Astra: healthy interest in the reality as well as the fantasy. It's time for HOST RL Astra: our monthly tour of the real science that's making headlines. Come HOST RL Astra: prepared to discuss the inventions and discoveries in the news, and HOST RL Astra: join HOST RL Chip for This Month in Science! HOST RL Astra: *** BLR WIZ: Getting the nail gun out for the next time................... DerHexer: Can we do SPAM haiku some time?? HOST RL Astra: OK. The authors have gone. NOW y'all can talk about the weather, LOL T83BIRD: You could call them *spaiku,* Der. BLR WIZ: It is cold here Astra.... STARMOM79: It SNOWED in Florida DerHexer: Actually, they're called spamku Araiused: It's colder here, BLR BLR WIZ: yesterday it was down to 0 OnlineHost: RAWoodward has left the room. BLR WIZ: Yes Ara, I am certian of that. T83BIRD: Nite RAW DerHexer: Well, we got another Rottweiler to replace our old Rowdy who we had to have euthanized STARMOM79: But it is supposed to be cold there, Ara HOST RL Astra: SPAM Haiku, Der? OldWolfGaidin: Oh, dear, Dex. I'm glad you have a new dog. Araiused: A puppy, Der? T83BIRD: Der, *spaiku* is easier to say than *spamku.* STARMOM79: What is Spam haiku? HOST RL Astra: That's what I'm wondering, STAR OnlineHost: Ramoth445 has left the room. T83BIRD: bye Ram DerHexer: Haiku devoted to Spam. You know what Spam is, don't you? The breakfast meat BLR WIZ: We might do the record of consectuive days under freezing. STARMOM79: Oh, Spam isn't just for breakfast anymore HOST RL Astra: Aha. I was thinking unwanted internet mail, Der. LOL Araiused: Oh, not the email trash? DerHexer: No, Ara, Truman is 3 years old, weighs 120 pounds, and his head comes up to my groin STARMOM79: That's more than Ara weighs, I'd bet OldWolfGaidin: Big dog! T83BIRD: BTW, in Japanese haiku are seasonal nature poems; the ones dealing with things human are called senryu. OldWolfGaidin: I didn't know that distinction, T-bird. OldWolfGaidin: There's also a more fleixble ten-line form whose name escapes me. T83BIRD: OWG, a Japanese acquaintance taught me that, OWG. BLR WIZ: T8 is a fouint of wisdom. OnlineHost: Messygal317 has entered the room. BLR WIZ: Hi Mess DerHexer: OK, Spam haiku HOST RL Astra: Messygal317! Pull up a beanbag and make yourself HOST RL Astra: comfortable in the Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: The author interview is over, so ... DerHexer: Spam, spam, spam, and spam HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! T83BIRD: Hey Messy Messygal317: hey all DerHexer: When will i get thru thy phase DerHexer: Oh god I love spam HOST RL Astra: With green eggs and ham Messygal317: sam i am T83BIRD: Careful, Der. Your mind could get fried along with the Spam. BLR WIZ: Heinze has green catsup on the market. OldWolfGaidin: I see, T-bird. DerHexer: Hey, it got fried a long time ago STARMOM79: Me too, Der DerHexer: Heinz also has blue ketchup, I heard Messygal317: and purple OldWolfGaidin: I think it's purple, but I've never seen it in the store. T83BIRD: Ok, Der. Just don't let it get burned, then. OnlineHost: RAWoodward has entered the room. DerHexer: Well, as PT Barnum said, "You will never go broke betting on the poor taste of the American public" T83BIRD: wb RAW Araiused: Re's RAW STARMOM79: Ketchup is trying to compete with salsa which outsold ketchup as the most popular condiment RAWoodward: I think my connection went dead for a minute before I was STARMOM79: But that isn't fair because they are used differently RAWoodward: booted off HOST RL Astra: re's RAW T83BIRD: Staying briefly, but thanks for the interview chat, Astra. DerHexer: Somebody didn't notice that the Hispanics were the fastest growing minority HOST RL Astra: Gotta show up at 10 for the full interview, folks :-) BLR WIZ: I live near there and saw the 1st promotion of the colored ketchup T83BIRD: They're gonna be taller than anyone else, Der? BLR WIZ: It got as big a promotion as the wonder bra did. ;) DerHexer: LOL RAWoodward: And, Der, "True Names" is NOT in the Collected Short Stories of Vernor Vinge T83BIRD: thx Der DerHexer: Well, pardon me for being wrong Shadowjakk: 10PM on the dot. The guests were here offering up secrets of the universe for 10 cents each! RAWoodward: _Collected Stories..._ is also missing one page of "Bomb Scare" OnlineHost: Messygal317 has left the room. RAWoodward: as well T83BIRD: bye Messy Araiused: LOL, Shadow HOST RL Astra: Heck, we had them here early, Shadow. You get the gossip at 10 til the hour :-) Araiused: Did Messy leave a mess? OldWolfGaidin: Fascinating, RAW Shadowjakk: But "True names" *is* in the anthology of the same name published by TOR in '01. Shadowjakk: LOL, Astra. BLR WIZ: This week I am a NEILSON Family. I HAVE TO record what shows I watch :) DerHexer: You can also find is in Ascent Of Wonder edited by David Hartwell Shadowjakk: And still on the shelves, Wolf. DerHexer: BLR, does that include what Yoda watches?? STARMOM79: Toodles all, thanks Marz and Astra OnlineHost: STARMOM79 has left the room. HOST RL Astra: Last plug of the hour ... For those of you who missed it earlier, you can read some of Steve and Sharon's writing at www.korval.com T83BIRD: Nite STAR OldWolfGaidin: Noted, Shadow BLR WIZ: LOL Der. I have to cover for YODA>>> Araiused: Thanks, Astra :) DerHexer: Does Yoda like Animal Planet, or QVC?? BLR WIZ: So I am watching every sf thing that I can. HOST RL Astra: Fish Channel, Der :-) OldWolfGaidin: Cool, BLR DerHexer: Good for you, BLR BLR WIZ: He hasn't seen either one for long, Ser\ DerHexer: I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fish channel, along with Vietnamese knitting Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 9] 1/25/2003 12:00 AM T83BIRD: BLR, Alee Cat doesn't watch tv much. BLR WIZ: I even get paid for it. I GOT A 1 dollar bill with my record book. Shadowjakk: You're just being koi now, Der. HOST RL Astra: They have videos of a fish tank you can buy for your cat, Der :-) HOST RL Astra: Thanks for joining me tonight everyone! HOST RL Astra: Goodnight modem! HOST RL Astra: Goodnight screen! HOST RL Astra: Goodnight websites still unseen! HOST RL Astra: Remember, if you have any problems, go to Keyword NOTIFY AOL. HOST RL Astra: Good night, all! Araiused: LOL DerHexer: Night all Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 9] 1/25/2003 12:00 AM