HOST EBK Lyra: ****The opinions expressed in this chat do not HOST EBK Lyra: necessarily represent those of the Other HOST EBK Lyra: *Worlds* Cafe or America Online.**** HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Lyra! Meinhardt7: Hi Lyra Haldeman Joe: Will do that. She's watching some teevee thing. Bo The Writer: Lyra HOST EBK Chip: We started the party without you, Lyra. HOST EBK Lyra: Good evening, Chip, Mein, Bo, Mr Haldeman, sir Haldeman Joe: Seductive italics, Lyra. HOST EBK Lyra: I see that you did---looks like a good one Bo The Writer: lol@Joe HOST EBK Chip: Okay, folks. We're still a coupla minutes early, but I'll start the show... Haldeman Joe: I just started using Via Voice this aft. Decided not to experiment on you guys, though. HOST EBK Chip: Tonight the Other*Worlds*Cafe is pleased to HOST EBK Chip: welcome Joe Haldeman, Hugo- and Nebula-award HOST EBK Chip: winning author and all-around favorite of the chat HOST EBK Chip: regulars. Bo The Writer: Here here HOST EBK Chip: Protocol will be in effect. If you have a question or a HOST EBK Chip: comment for Mr. Haldeman, please type a ? or a ! to HOST EBK Chip: the screen. HOST EBK Chip: Comments supersede questions, and they'll be handled in the order received. OnlineHost: E cat s has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, E. Meinhardt7: E! Bo The Writer: Cat E cat s: Hi, guys :)! Meinhardt7: ! HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, Mein. E cat s: Hello, Mr. Haldeman. Haldeman Joe: Hi, cat. OnlineHost: Araiused has entered the room. Meinhardt7: Mr. Haldeman, aloww me to introduce Ecat S. : ) Bo The Writer: Ara HOST EBK Chip: That's nicely formal, Mein. Meinhardt7: Hi Ara Araiused: G'Evening. E cat s: Hi, Ara HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Ara. Protocol as usual. Haldeman Joe: Still evening here, too. Haldeman Joe: Other time zones represented? Araiused: Is early evening here. HOST EBK Chip: Yup; we're all over the US. OnlineHost: T83BIRD has entered the room. Araiused: <--- Western Canada HOST EBK Chip: And points north and south. Araiused: Hi, T. HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Ara E cat s: Central Araiused: I've been greeted. Araiused: OnlineHost: Sfaficionado has entered the room. Meinhardt7: Hi T. Dixie HOST EBK Chip: The guy from the UK apparently cured his insomnia; he hasn't been in here lately. T83BIRD: Hi, all and guest Joe Haldeman. Araiused: Hi, Sf E cat s: Hi T :), Sfa Sfaficionado: Good evening all T83BIRD: Hi Sfa HOST EBK Lyra: Hi T! Welcome to the O*W*C! Tonight our special guest is HOST EBK Lyra: author Joe Haldeman. To avoid onscreen chaos, Protocol is in HOST EBK Lyra: effect. If you have a question for Mr. Haldeman, please type "?" HOST EBK Lyra: onscreen. If you have a comment, please type "!" onscreen. Haldeman Joe: Ara -- what part of Canada? HOST EBK Lyra: Comments take precedence over questions, and you will be HOST EBK Lyra: recognised in turn by HOST EBK Chip. Otherwise, *please* HOST EBK Lyra: refrain from extraneous onscreen commentary. Thanks in HOST EBK Lyra: advance for observing Protocol! Araiused: Alberta. Bo The Writer: T8 Bo The Writer: Sfa HOST EBK Chip: So...thank you again for joining us tonight, Mr. HOST EBK Chip: Haldeman. The O*W*C discusses SF 7 nights a HOST EBK Chip: week, and your work is often mentioned. We're a HOST EBK Chip: literature-based group, so you'll find a lot of eager HOST EBK Chip: readers in here. HOST EBK Chip: (We owe Bo a metric ton of squid for coaxing you in here.) Haldeman Joe: Good ... I'm an eager eater too. Araiused: LOL HOST EBK Chip: Folks, please feel free to ask questions (?) or make comments (!) Bo The Writer: lol@Chip...Joe is too cool...he jumped at the chance E cat s: ? HOST EBK Chip: Yes, E? OnlineHost: BLR WIZ has entered the room. E cat s: What do you like to read, Mr. Haldeman? T83BIRD: HI BLR Bo The Writer: Blr Meinhardt7: HI BLR Haldeman Joe: All over the map, E. Haldeman Joe: Right now I'm enjoying a scholarly thing -- BLR WIZ: Hi all Haldeman Joe: a page-by-page commentary of Hemingway's A MOVEABLE FEAST. Haldeman Joe: More interesting than it may sound. HOST EBK Chip: LOL...I was wondering, given your bibliography, whether you were a Hemingway fan. T83BIRD: i HOST EBK Chip: Yes, T8? E cat s: :) Sounds like The Annotated Alice, lots of fun. Haldeman Joe: Yeah, I'm sort of an amateur scholar. Araiused: ? OnlineHost: MWB54619 has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: T8 ! Ara ? Bo The Writer: lol@Joe...yeah, right T83BIRD: Mr. Haldeman, I'm a retired English professor. I often taught Hemingway's work. What is T83BIRD: your estimate? Haldeman Joe: He's good to teach, because his strengths are easily accessible. Bo The Writer: MW Haldeman Joe: I don't know how posterity will regard him. BLR WIZ: ? Sfaficionado: ? T83BIRD: thx for your reply Haldeman Joe: He was too much of a public personality for us to be objective, yet. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Ara ? BLR ? Sf ? Go ahead Ara. Araiused: Joe, you wrote the foreword to INNER VISIONS, The Art Araiused: of Ron Walotsky. It's very well written. Is he your Araiused: favourite artist? OnlineHost: STARMOM79 has entered the room. T83BIRD: HI STAR Bo The Writer: Star Haldeman Joe: Ron is one of my favorite guys. My favorite artist. is Vermeer. MWB54619: yes Bo!!!!? HOST EBK Chip: Queue: BLR ? Sf? Go ahead, BLR BLR WIZ: How did they infuence The Hemingway Hoax? MWB54619: Hello JOE!!!!!!!!! HOST EBK Chip: LOL. We have an enthusiastic attendee. Haldeman Joe: Hi. MW. BLR, who do you mean by "who"? Haldeman Joe: I mean "they" ... BLR WIZ: Your love for Hemingway? They = that typpos Haldeman Joe: It was the book I most enjoyed writing. The research was pure fun. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Sf ? Go ahead, Sf. Sfaficionado: I loved Forever Free; are any more sequels planned? BLR WIZ: Thx Haldeman Joe: I have a love/hate relationship with Hemingway. as many of his admirers do.\ OnlineHost: JonnyDuffy has entered the room. T83BIRD: Hi Jonny Bo The Writer: Jonny Haldeman Joe: He was a fine writer, though others (like Fitzgerald) were better stylists. JonnyDuffy: ! Haldeman Joe: SF, I don't have any more seqyels planned. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Jonny ! Go ahead, Jonny. JonnyDuffy: Hi, Joe! We met a Baycon a few years back at the bar at the meet the writers. JonnyDuffy: I'm an Analog guy Haldeman Joe: Hi Jonny. OnlineHost: MWB54619 has left the room. Haldeman Joe: Wish I was at the bar now. Out of wine! Sfaficionado: ? JonnyDuffy: Oh no! Bo The Writer: lol@Joe HOST EBK Chip: :::uploading Chateau '23::: Bo The Writer: lol@Chip HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, Sf. Haldeman Joe: Hey, Gay came in during a commercial and has gone on a booze run -- hooray! Sfaficionado: After the Coming, what else do you have we can be looking for? Haldeman Joe: Right now I'm about halfway through a book called Listen to the Raven. T83BIRD: ? HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, T8. T83BIRD: Any connection with Poe? Haldeman Joe: No -- the connection is with Inuit religion, and Tlingit. T83BIRD: ok thx HOST EBK Chip: Ooh! I get points. I was gonna ask if that was the connection. Haldeman Joe: Not a fantasy, I hasten to say. Hard sf. T83BIRD: lol Chip HOST EBK Chip: Even more intriguing. JonnyDuffy: ? Araiused: ! HOST EBK Chip: Ara, go ahead. Jonny, you're next. Araiused: That's very interesting, hard religion and SF Haldeman Joe: It's an interesting and congenial religion. HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, Jonny. JonnyDuffy: Joe, anything in the pipeline for Analog--or any short pieces coming? Araiused: I mean hard SF and Inuit religion (phone distracted me :/) Haldeman Joe: Animal worship, in a way, but with interesting levels of subtlety. HOST EBK Chip: Well, the Inuit faith is a Sednatery religion. Sfaficionado: ? Haldeman Joe: Jonny, I don't have anything short in the pipeline, except for "Four Short Novels," a story T83BIRD: i Haldeman Joe: I wrote for a Silvberberg antho. HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, T8. Sf, you're next. Meinhardt7: ? T83BIRD: Pun: Joe, I bet you have to use your *Inuition* for this one. Haldeman Joe: Ouch ... now we'll have to kill you. Araiused: ! OnlineHost: Gandalara has entered the room. Bo The Writer: lol@Joe HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Sf ? Ara ! Mein ? Go ahead Sf. T83BIRD: Hi Gand Sfaficionado: What is the reference to/what is Tlingit? BLR WIZ: Hi Gand Bo The Writer: Gand Gandalara: Yo Araiused: Hey Gand! Haldeman Joe: SF, the Tlingit are an interesting culture that lives Haldeman Joe: on the we4st coast of Canada/Alaska. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Ara ! Mein ? Go ahead Ara. Araiused: Nunavut! OnlineHost: Drgafia1 has entered the room. T83BIRD: Hi DrG Araiused: Have to say it. The Inuit capital of the New Canadian Territory Bo The Writer: Drg Drgafia1: The doctor is in... Araiused: Hey, Dr G HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, Mein. Meinhardt7: Title and publishing date for the Agberg anthology, please? Haldeman Joe: Wow ... purple italics ... Bo The Writer: lol@Joe Haldeman Joe: The Agberg is from Flammarion ... I have the French copy now .... Drgafia1: Hi, Joe...oops...rich brown here... Haldeman Joe: don't know when the English is coming out. Soon. Haldeman Joe: Hey, Rich! Meinhardt7: (Je ne parle-pas Francais) : ( HOST EBK Chip: I can ask a general question that I like to ask all of HOST EBK Chip: our author interviewees...what draws you to science HOST EBK Chip: fiction as a genre? Haldeman Joe: "An poo" Bo The Writer: lol@Joe Meinhardt7: lollol Haldeman Joe: That was the answer to French ... Drgafia1: Was easy for him to say, what? Haldeman Joe: I always read sf, so it was a logical thing to start writing. Haldeman Joe: I love the freedom. Bo The Writer: ? Araiused: ? HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, Bo. STARMOM79: ? Haldeman Joe: You can write about anything and you aren't (any longer) confined to a commercial style. Gandalara: ? Bo The Writer: Joe, do you read Shakespeare every morning before you write Haldeman Joe: Poetry. Haldeman Joe: Righht now I'm reading random stuff from the nineteenth century ... Haldeman Joe: Palgraves Treasury, because that's what my character is reading. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Ara ? STAR ? Gand ? Go ahead Ara. Araiused: What is a commercial style? T83BIRD: afk Haldeman Joe: Action/adventure stuff that doesn't have anything else. For a short answer. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: STAR ? Gand ? Go ahead STAR. STARMOM79: Does reference to current events/culture tend to date a work? Better to invent? Haldeman Joe: There are other commercial styles. Some of them are pretty intellectuial. Haldeman Joe: When you write close to the present in sf you do risk dating yourself. Haldeman Joe: But you gain identification with the reader's life. Haldeman Joe: It's a trade-off. OnlineHost: Techyo has entered the room. Bo The Writer: Tech Araiused: TECHIE!!!! Meinhardt7: ! E cat s: WB Tech Gandalara: Tech!! HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Mein ! Gand ? Go ahead Mein. Drgafia1: Hi Tech (we like the sound of that)... STARMOM79: How are? Do you feel better? We missed you Meinhardt7: I am very pleased to introduce... Techyo! Haldeman Joe: Hello, Tech. What's tech mean? Techyo: Hi Room! Hi Mr Haldeman. Tech's is for technician. Techyo: Thus Tehcnician yokel OnlineHost: RowrBasil has entered the room. Araiused: Hi, Rowr! Bo The Writer: Row Techyo: Er spelled right. HOST EBK Chip: Tech is one of our hosts, in his civvies, Mr. HOST EBK Chip: Haldeman. We're pleased to see him amongst the HOST EBK Chip: living; he was in the hospital. HOST EBK Chip: If he'd croaked, we'd have had a rotation to fill. :/ Haldeman Joe: Ouchers. Welcome back to the living. Techyo: Had to get back in time meet you. BLR WIZ: Tech went out the back window of the hospital to be be here Gandalara: ::: thwaps Chip ::: HOST EBK Chip: S'okay. I'm wearing my thwap-proof underwear. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Gand ? Go ahead Gand. Gandalara: Joe, will you ever write anything else in the "Worlds" universe? Or is that kaput? (I know Gandalara: they're old, but I like them ) Gandalara: (And thanks for the signed copy of The Coming) Haldeman Joe: Gand, I think that's complete. Couldn't imagine a follow-up. OnlineHost: Drgafia1 has left the room. T83BIRD: bak OnlineHost: Drgafia1 has entered the room. Haldeman Joe: Those are my favorite of my books, incidently. Araiused: Re's Dr G T83BIRD: re's DrG Drgafia1: The doctor returns... JonnyDuffy: ? HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, Jonny. Gandalara: Mine too, Joe T83BIRD: i JonnyDuffy: Joe, with Amazing gone (again) and circulation down, you think magazine SF is in trouble? Haldeman Joe: It's been in trouble since the fifties, Jonny. JonnyDuffy: sure but... Haldeman Joe: Amazing hasn't been a real player in a long time. Haldeman Joe: They published good stuff, sure, but didn't pay enough to attract any big names. JonnyDuffy: HOST EBK Chip: Queue: T8 ! Go ahead T8. T83BIRD: I admire the studied irony of your poem, "January Fires". Haldeman Joe: Thanks, T8. T83BIRD: yw Drgafia1: ? HOST EBK Chip: Go ahead, Drg. Drgafia1: Joe, what are your convention plans? Will you be at MillPhil? Any others? Down in Fla? Sfaficionado: ? BLR WIZ: ? Araiused: ? Haldeman Joe: Next con is going to be the Conference on the Fantastic in the Arts in Fort Lauderdale in Ma Haldeman Joe: rch. Then we're going to one in Tulsa ... Haldeman Joe: I'm not sure when. Haldeman Joe: Might show up at Demicon in Deds Moines. Drgafia1: Ah, you're getting to more (& more varied) than I am, these days... HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Sf ? BLR ? Ara ? Go ahead Sf. Sfaficionado: Is there a sanctioned website for you where we can get updates on books/appearances etc? Gandalara: ? Haldeman Joe: Yes. Sf, I hjave a schedule of appearances on my websit --I think it's home.earthlink.net/~halde Haldeman Joe: man HOST EBK Chip: Mr. Haldeman's site is a link on the O*W*C links page, too. Haldeman Joe: Boy, can this guy type, or what? Bo The Writer: lol@Joe Meinhardt7: lol HOST EBK Chip: And it's the first thing that turns up in a Yahoo search of "Joe Haldeman." Bo The Writer: ROFL@Joe HOST EBK Chip: LOL. You're doing better than some of our hosts, Joe. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: BLR ? Ara ? Gand ? Go ahead BLR. BLR WIZ: As I understand it, The Forever War is one of 3 SF books BLR WIZ: that are recommended reading for the Military for its BLR WIZ: discussion on the causes of war. What is you take on BLR WIZ: that? Techyo: Hey Chip I reseble that remark. Haldeman Joe: Well, I'm both flattered and a little perpl;exed. Haldeman Joe: You have to realize that a lot of professional military T83BIRD: Hi Tech Haldeman Joe: men and women are strongly pacifistic. Haldeman Joe: Liek they don't 2want to die for you ... Haldeman Joe: but also they don't want to be responsible for STARMOM79: ! Haldeman Joe: what all those terrible3 weapons can do. Haldeman Joe: So they often have me out to thinktanks to talks Meinhardt7: ? Haldeman Joe: about how not to kill people. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: STAR ! Ara ? Gand ? Mein ? Go ahead STAR. BLR WIZ: How not to kill peoplle sounds like a fun subject. Thx Joe STARMOM79: nevermind, been said better HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Ara ? Gand ? Mein ? Go ahead Ara. Araiused: How do you balance work and play, that is writing and going to Cons and relaxation? Haldeman Joe: Funny .. in FOREVER PEACE i described a bunch of Haldeman Joe: nonviolent weapons -- weapons of nonlethal intent, OnlineHost: Drgafia1 has left the room. Haldeman Joe: they're called now -- and before the book came out, Haldeman Joe: I saw most of them being demonstrated opn an army TV SPECIAL. Gandalara: Royalties! HOST EBK Chip: LOL BLR WIZ: LOL Haldeman Joe: Ara. I sincerely go along with Confucious on this one. Araiused: LOL Haldeman Joe: Your life is out of balance until your work and your play\ Haldeman Joe: are indistinguishable ... HOST EBK Chip: I really like that sentiment. Haldeman Joe: Your sork is what you want to do, and your play STARMOM79: ? Haldeman Joe: is demanding and satisfying in complex ways. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Gand ? Mein ? STAR ? Go ahead Gand. BLR WIZ: ! Gandalara: Can you tell us what your newest book The Coming is about? Plug! And what you're working Gandalara: on now? Haldeman Joe: The Coming is sort of about Gainesville, Florida, fifty years from now. Haldeman Joe: It's sort of about American cultuer ... Haldeman Joe: and gamma ray astronomy ... Haldeman Joe: amd sexual mores ... Haldeman Joe: and drugs ... Haldeman Joe: and cooking ... Gandalara: LOL T83BIRD: Wow! Bo The Writer: lol@Joe Haldeman Joe: and boobytraps and other neat stuff. Haldeman Joe: I want to go out and buy a copy right now. HOST EBK Chip: Not that there are a lot of themes in this book.... Bo The Writer: lol@Joe HOST EBK Chip: Queue: BLR ! Mein ? STAR ? Go ahead BLR. BLR WIZ: Just because I did Fire Restoration didn't mean that I was BLR WIZ: running around starting fires T83BIRD: LOL HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Mein ? STAR ? Go ahead Mein. JonnyDuffy: ? BLR WIZ: Wait a min., I guess I did go around with fire. A hand full BLR WIZ: of fire got you faster service at the bar. HOST EBK Chip: Mein? OnlineHost: Meinhardt7 has left the room. HOST EBK Chip: Whups, Mein punted. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: STAR ? Jonny ? Go ahead STAR. Araiused: Mein moofed STARMOM79: Is it possible to have a life like that anymore? Someone has to do the dirty work. Some jobs STARMOM79: will never be play OnlineHost: Meinhardt7 has entered the room. Techyo: ! T83BIRD: re's Mein E cat s: wb 7 Haldeman Joe: Starmom, you're right, of course. Somebody has to tote bedpans and take Meinhardt7: Sorry. Pratfalls are part of my shtick. Haldeman Joe: out the garbage ... though we may be evolving Haldeman Joe: toward a culture where all of those things are Haldeman Joe: taken care of by machines. BLR WIZ: ! Meinhardt7: ? HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Tech ! BLR ! Mein ? Jonny ? Go ahead Tech. STARMOM79: I did say something like that to my daughter. I didn't know I was Confucian Techyo: I'm told I need to lay back down now. Mr Haldeman it's great meeting you wish I could stay. Techyo: And thanks for all the great stories. Night Everyone! Araiused: See ya, Tech! HOST EBK Lyra: Night Tech Araiused: Keep hale and hearty! Bo The Writer: Bye, Tech...get well HOST EBK Chip: Night, Tech! Welcome back! STARMOM79: Bye Tech, take care Meinhardt7: Bye Tech E cat s: Night, Tech!!! Gandalara: Night Tech! Haldeman Joe: Thanks, Tech. Sweet dreams. E cat s: Take good care OnlineHost: Techyo has left the room. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: BLR ! Mein ? Jonny ? Go ahead BLR. BLR WIZ: Bye Tech BLR WIZ: No machine can replace me until it learns how to drink. T83BIRD: bye Tech HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Mein ? Jonny ? Go ahead Mein. Meinhardt7: continued....Fiction". Any comments on the peripheral aspects of literary reknown? Haldeman Joe: BLR, let me introduce you to my car. It drinks. Araiused: LOL Gandalara: LOL BLR WIZ: LOLOL Bo The Writer: lol@Joe Haldeman Joe: Mein, I don't feel particularly renowned. BLR WIZ: afk Meinhardt7: ! HOST EBK Chip: G'head, Mein. Haldeman Joe: Fandom is great for helping you keep your bearings. T83BIRD: ! Haldeman Joe: I know lots ofpeople who are smarter than I will ever be ... HOST EBK Chip: I was gonna comment too...you don't feel renowned HOST EBK Chip: because you're not hangin' out in the right chat HOST EBK Chip: rooms. Haldeman Joe: and know that a lot of my success is just luck and timing. Meinhardt7: I work w/ rock and pop stars. Your answer is comment enough for me. Bo The Writer: No way, Joe Meinhardt7: : ) HOST EBK Chip: Queue: T8 ! Jonny ? Go ahead T8. Haldeman Joe: If I were starting out today. I'd have a lot steeper hill to climb. T83BIRD: Joe, my spouse Bonnie would hope for machine help. She's disabled. OnlineHost: Sfaficionado has left the room. HOST EBK Chip: Queue: Jonny ? Go ahead Jonny. JonnyDuffy: What do you think the military-types learned, if anything, from you at those think tanks? & JonnyDuffy: which one may I ask? Haldeman Joe: It may come, T8. But of course it comes to the wealthy first. T83BIRD: She's 60, Joe. She needs it soon. Haldeman Joe: Jonny, one thing they were interested in was Haldeman Joe: the idea that you could actually win a battle Haldeman Joe: without killing anyone. Haldeman Joe: I gave them a few (pretty simple) sf scenarios where you could Haldeman Joe: take over without a shot being fired. HOST EBK Chip: Folks, our "allotted" hour with Mr. Haldeman is HOST EBK Chip: almost up. He's more than welcome to stick around HOST EBK Chip: for the second hour of chat if he likes, but I'd like to HOST EBK Chip: take the opportunity to thank him *very* much for HOST EBK Chip: taking the time to be with us this evening. JonnyDuffy: & which think tanks were these, may I ask? Rand? OnlineHost: Sfaficionado has entered the room. T83BIRD: Thanks mucho, Joe. Haldeman Joe: Not anything startling to you or me, but these are mostly jet jocks. Gandalara: :::: APPLAUSE ::: Araiused: Thank you, Mr. Joe Haldeman! HOST EBK Chip: Your work gets mentioned regularly in here, and we're thrilled you joined us tonight. JonnyDuffy: Horray, Joe! See you at the next Baycon maybe! Bo The Writer: Good work, Joe...I'll have to make you Jerk chicken for this, friend STARMOM79: ! HOST EBK Chip: G'head, STAR E cat s: Thank you, Mr. Haldeman! Haldeman Joe: Jonny, it's been Writgh-Pat and the USAF grad school in Georgia. HOST EBK Chip: Thanks, Bo. BLR WIZ: Thx Joe STARMOM79: I hope you appreciate how restrained we've been. Only one pun HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL STAR Gandalara: LOL T83BIRD: LOL Araiused: LOL, STAR HOST EBK Chip: Bo can fill him in on our good behavior. BLR WIZ: Beer for everyone....... BLR WIZ: c(_) c(_) c(_) c(_) c(_) c(_) BLR WIZ: My Home Made Wine For The Others........ BLR WIZ: \~~/ \~~/ \~~/ \~~/ BLR WIZ: V V V V BLR WIZ: T T T T BLR WIZ: /\ /\ /\ /\ BLR WIZ: OnlineHost: JonnyDuffy has left the room. Bo The Writer: I have nothing but good words to say about the Sci-fi chatters Haldeman Joe: One pun ... at least it rhymes .... T83BIRD: LOL Joe HOST EBK Chip: LOL BLR WIZ: LOL Joe, you should stop in on pun night. The horror of it all Bo The Writer: Thanks, Joe, see ya Friday Haldeman Joe: Thanks for having me here, guys. Good interface. Have to do ita OnlineHost: Sfaficionado has left the room. Haldeman Joe: gain some time. Haldeman Joe: Joe Gandalara: Joe, you will be at WorldCon in Philly? STARMOM79: LOL, not only am I a Starmon I'm also a Gatormom HOST EBK Chip: Thanks a lot, Joe. We'll be ready when you are. OnlineHost: Hypatia141 has entered the room. HOST EBK Lyra: Thanks, Joe Haldeman Joe: Always make Worldcon, Gan, for the past 30 years. T83BIRD: Hi Tia Araiused: Hi, Hy! BLR WIZ: Hi Hypa STARMOM79: Hi Hypatia Hypatia141: Hi guys Araiused: Oh, then you will be at San Jose and Torcon too?? Bo The Writer: Hyp Meinhardt7: Hi Hyp Haldeman Joe: All of 'em, Ar ... hope to be at the one in orbit. OnlineHost: Bfs200 has entered the room. Gandalara: Yayyyyy! T83BIRD: Hi Bfs Araiused: Cool! HOST EBK Chip: Now *that* would be one worth attending. Meinhardt7: Hi Bfs Hypatia141: T :) Ara :) BLR :) Star :) Bo :) Mein :) BFS Araiused: Hi Bfs Gandalara: Xerpes 2010 HOST EBK Chip: (Er...Not that they all aren't.) Bo The Writer: Bfs BLR WIZ: Save up your air miles for that one Chip. HOST EBK Chip: LOL BLR T83BIRD: LOL Chip OnlineHost: Vickers682773743 has entered the room. Haldeman Joe: Vacuum miles, too. T83BIRD: Hey Vick Araiused: Hi Vickers HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Gandalara: LOL joe BLR WIZ: LOL Hypatia141: Vickers BLR WIZ: Hi vick Bo The Writer: Vick Meinhardt7: Hi Vick STARMOM79: Hi Vick Vickers682773743: hello Bo The Writer: lol@Joe STARMOM79: can we call you 682773743 for short? HOST EBK Chip: LOL STAR T83BIRD: LOLOL to Joe Araiused: LOL, STAR Meinhardt7: lol HOST EBK Lyra: Bfs and Vickers, welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe Vickers682773743: but of course Bo The Writer: lol@Star HOST EBK Lyra: LOL BLR WIZ: LOL Joe STARMOM79: Being as we're just meeting, I thought I'd ask first Haldeman Joe: Of course you could call him or her "68" .... Haldeman Joe: but that would be wrong. Bo The Writer: lol@Joe HOST EBK Chip: Okay, we're going to turn protocol off at this point, HOST EBK Chip: and Mr. Haldeman can run shrieking from the room HOST EBK Chip: whenever he likes. We're glad of his company this HOST EBK Chip: evening. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Joe Gandalara: Thank you, Joe! Bo The Writer: lol@Chip T83BIRD: Danke schoen, Joe. STARMOM79: :::letting out my corset::: Hypatia141: Thank you, Joe. HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL STAR Haldeman Joe: I'd better trot off to bed. Up at 3:30 or 4:00 to write. Bo The Writer: lol@Star HOST EBK Lyra: LOL STAR Haldeman Joe: Thanks for a good chat, guys - Haldeman Joe: Joe Araiused: G'night, Joe! T83BIRD: Nite Joe HOST EBK Chip: Thanks again, Joe. We'll send lavish praise through Bo. HOST EBK Lyra: Good night, Joe BLR WIZ: So you write better in the early moringin? STARMOM79: Bye Joe Meinhardt7: G'night JH Gandalara: Night Joe! Araiused: See ya again at Worldcon! Bo The Writer: Bye, Joe...take care now Haldeman Joe: (Always, BLR ... quit when the sun comes up, if I can.) BLR WIZ: HOST EBK Chip: Now *that's* the way to work. OnlineHost: Bfs200 has left the room. Araiused: Those are the best hours, BLR, quiet and dark. Haldeman Joe: Bye, Gloria -- see you Friday? BLR WIZ: And no one to bother you. STARMOM79: I'm not a morning person. Can you be a great writer if you get up at noon? Bo The Writer: Okay, Joe..love ya Hypatia141: LOL HOST EBK Chip: LOL STAR Gandalara: lol Bo The Writer: lol@Star...I sincerely pray so... HOST EBK Chip: Read Hemingway, STAR. HOST EBK Chip: :::big wet kiss to Bo::: Haldeman Joe: Sure, STAR ... Faulkner was a great writer and he waDRUNK by noon@! Bo The Writer: ROFL@Joe BLR WIZ: lolol Bo The Writer: lol@Joe T83BIRD: LOL STARMOM79: th paraphrase. God put us on this earth to read a certain number of books. Right now, I am STARMOM79: so far behind I will never die Bo The Writer: Joe has the greatest sense of humor HOST EBK Chip: LOL STAR Araiused: LOL, STAR BLR WIZ: LOL T83BIRD: LOL STAR Hypatia141: There ya go, Star BLR WIZ: When God Created Man, Eye Glasses hadn't been BLR WIZ: invented yet!!!! BLR WIZ: But look where he put our ears. BLR WIZ: When God Created Man, Eye Glasses hadn't been STARMOM79: My bedroom is starting to look like my favorite used bookstore BLR WIZ: invented yet!!!! BLR WIZ: But look where he put our ears. HOST EBK Chip: LOL BLR RowrBasil: I confess, I have tried to read Hemingway, but I must be tone-deaf. Vickers682773743: I prefer bad Hemingway OnlineHost: Drgafia1 has entered the room. RowrBasil: Read aldous huxley in high school. T83BIRD: re's DrG Araiused: Re's Dr G Hypatia141: DrG Drgafia1: The doctor apologizes again for his steam-powered computer... STARMOM79: DrG are the AOLiths getting you? Araiused: LOLOL, Dr G HOST EBK Chip: Rowr, you're not alone. I read where Hemingway HOST EBK Chip: used to sit and hit his head with a shilleleagh until it HOST EBK Chip: bled. I think that helps with the reading in addition to HOST EBK Chip: the writing. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Drg Hypatia141: Adds color, anyhow, Chip T83BIRD: Nah, STAR, the AOLiers. HOST EBK Chip: Mostly red, Hyp. BLR WIZ: Drg, All computers run on smoke. When all of the smoke comes out, they stop working. Drgafia1: Then the cure is to give them more smoke? T83BIRD: BLR, include the mirrors in that. BLR WIZ: Yes T8 Meinhardt7: Precisely, Drg. I am a part-time smoke re-installer. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Mein Vickers682773743: Hy, your first computer's keyboard had how many letters? Hypatia141: Um....well, two. STARMOM79: 12 Vickers682773743: and Roman numerals, of course RowrBasil: But I suspect this is comes from my dislike of nature, outdoors, fighting,drinking, and such BLR WIZ: No letteres, it didn't make varsity. HOST EBK Chip: 0. It had dipswitches. HOST EBK Chip: It was an Altair. Araiused: LOL T83BIRD: LOL Chip STARMOM79: lol BLR Hypatia141: Well, we never really cared much for the Romans, you know, Vick. Drgafia1: Yes, burning down them Libraries like they did... BLR WIZ: LOL Hyp Vickers682773743: stop blaming others for your carelessness with matches RowrBasil: Drg..must have heard there were Harry Potter books in them.. Hypatia141: ROFL HOST EBK Chip: LOL Rowr RowrBasil: no, those were Baptists, sorry. Drgafia1: That would explain it... Hypatia141: 'Rowr, do not get me started on THAT. HOST EBK Lyra: Joe, try to catch one of the pun nights and come HOST EBK Lyra: incognito----I think you'd like it unless you hate puns HOST EBK Lyra: like most normal people STARMOM79: I think the Baptists are getting ready to take over the world Vickers682773743: the Baptists are just good literary critics Gandalara: Time for me to get some sleep. Night all HOST EBK Chip: Lyra, you hang out in here, "normal" is not a problem. Hypatia141: Night Gand HOST EBK Chip: Night, Gand! E cat s: Night Gand Araiused: Nite., Gand! RowrBasil: STAR..nonsense. They have less chance than Pinky and the Brain. BLR WIZ: Bye Gand Meinhardt7: G'night Gand T83BIRD: I need to leave now, too. Spouse Bonnie has dialysis again come morning. Thanks Joe & all. OnlineHost: Gandalara has left the room. T83BIRD: Nite Bo The Writer: Bye, Gand Drgafia1: Oh, is Joe still with us? He who named his writer's group the Gilford Gafia? HOST EBK Chip: Night, T8 BLR WIZ: NARFF Araiused: See ya, T! Meinhardt7: G'night T STARMOM79: Night Gand E cat s: Night T Hypatia141: Later T, love to Bonnie HOST EBK Lyra: Chip, I made no personal claims BLR WIZ: Bye T8 HOST EBK Lyra: Night T Bo The Writer: Bye, T8 HOST EBK Chip: LOL Lyra STARMOM79: Nite T Bo The Writer: Okay, troops, I'll be back tomorrow...take care OnlineHost: T83BIRD has left the room. Hypatia141: Later Bo HOST EBK Chip: Night, Bo! BLR WIZ: Bye Bo Araiused: See ya, Bo Meinhardt7: G'night Bo. Thx. HOST EBK Chip: Thanks again! E cat s: Night Bo Drgafia1: Nite Bo... DrgafiBK Lyra: Night, STARMOM79: Nite Bo Bo The Writer: yw, Chip...my pleasure OnlineHost: Bo The Writer has left the room. BLR WIZ: See Joe, we are a friendly room. Friendly but strange. HOST EBK Chip: So...of the various storylines Haldeman has presented us, which are our favorite themes? Araiused: Joe is making his acquaintance with Iggy at the bar. BLR WIZ: Araiused: Survival of the human race? Meinhardt7: ~0/ War! what is it good for? uh! absolutely../0~ Drgafia1: Hmm. Well, if you must know, I liked Star School... HOST EBK Chip: LOL Mein HOST EBK Chip: Why, Drg? HOST EBK Chip: Yeah...I think that scores high on everybody's list, Ara. STARMOM79: Star school? It just comes natural Drgafia1: I dunno, it just grabbed me. But then, Joe's stories do that to me too. It's almost like I Drgafia1: used to feel in reading Heinlein, if Joe doesn;t take that the wroong way... HOST EBK Lyra: LOL STAR OnlineHost: DerHexer has entered the room. HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, Der. DerHexer: Hi all Araiused: Hey, Der E cat s: Hi Der Hypatia141: Der HOST EBK Lyra: Der, welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe DerHexer: Hi Joe, BLR WIZ: Joe, I just noticed that when I moved in here many moons BLR WIZ: ago. I did an index card on every book as I unboxed it. BLR WIZ: Your book Worlds is #1 out of #2,518 SF books. Meinhardt7: Hi Der HOST EBK Chip: We have the only lurking Hugo-award-winning author on AOL at the moment. ;D Araiused: LOL HOST EBK Lyra: LOL BLR WIZ: LOL HOST EBK Lyra: World class lurker DerHexer: Joe, how does it feel to be called a lurker?? Araiused: He's busy lurking, Der Drgafia1: I suspect Joe's away from his computer at the moment... Hypatia141: Iggy got him drunk, poor Joe. Araiused: Joe forgot to sign off BLR WIZ: Blame it on Iggy. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Hyp Araiused: LOL, Hy BLR WIZ: GMTA Hyp Hypatia141: LOL HOST EBK Chip: We were thrilled to have him in chat, though. Drgafia1: Maybe he's watching ATTILA... HOST EBK Chip: We'll have to see if he'll do an encore some time. RowrBasil: Drg...that's my hair stylists name.. STARMOM79: Maybe he's writing us into his new book! Araiused: LOL, STAR BLR WIZ: LOL DerHexer: Your stylist's name is Atilla?? Drgafia1: I don't think Joe Tuckerizes, but maybe so. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Rowr RowrBasil: yes..european fellow, place on melrose. DerHexer: Zo, what do they call you when Atilla is done?? Medusa?? BLR WIZ: Perhaps he is getting too many story ideas to write down BLR WIZ: that he can't chat at the same time? RowrBasil: Nobody sees snakes in my hair unless they've had Iggy's cooking first. Hypatia141: He's getting up at 3:30...he's probably asleep. Araiused: LOLOL Drgafia1: Well, I expected him to respond when someone hinted he might not like puns... HOST EBK Chip: <-- Used to be called Attila the Honey. DerHexer: LOL Araiused: LOLOL, Chip BLR WIZ: What time Zone? Drgafia1: His writer's group, when he lived in Bawlmer, was called the Guilford Gafia... Meinhardt7: Top 10 SMOF status indicators: your name is used as a verb, noun, or adjective. HOST EBK Chip: Eastern, but freshly returned from Pacific, BLR. Drgafia1: He lived on a street named Guilford.... Drgafia1: and it was a takeoff on the Milford Mafia... Araiused: Maybe he has QWERTY written on his forehead... BLR WIZ: Chip, then he can get a full 4 hours of sleep. DerHexer: I enjoyed most of Haldeman's stuff. Especially Forever War and Mindbridge Drgafia1: Arai, only if it were emblazened by a stylus by Ted White... STARMOM79: Maybe he gets plot ideas when he's delerious from lack of sleep OnlineHost: RhoadKyll2 has entered the room. RowrBasil: Actually, writing early in morning is good. ĻUsed to be night auditor..11pm to 7am.. Araiused: Hi, Rhoad Meinhardt7: Hi Rhoad STARMOM79: Hi Rhoad HOST EBK Lyra: Rhoad, welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe Hypatia141: Rhoad DerHexer: Hi Rhoad RowrBasil: from 3-6 am, no problems of disturbances. E cat s: Hi Rhoad RhoadKyll2: Aloha BLR WIZ: I get a lot of ideas then too, STAR. But don't ask. Drgafia1: On the other hand . . . he could be sitting there reading EVERYTHING.... BLR WIZ: Hi Rhoad Araiused: Yup, Dr G. RowrBasil: My friend always gets his ideas while in the shower... Araiused: and getting all sorts of ideas. RowrBasil: the janet leigh school of inspiration. BLR WIZ: Drg., he can always download the chat. Drgafia1: I get my ideas while falling over backwards on a 6' stepladder... OnlineHost: Vickers682773743 has left the room. Araiused: LOL, Dr G STARMOM79: I have an idea for a chat but it's kind of wierd. How do I present it? Hypatia141: Well, kids, see you tomorrow. Drgafia1: ...unfortunately, the crash knocks them back out again! Araiused: See ya, Hy HOST EBK Chip: STAR, two ways... DerHexer: You just spit it out, STAR STARMOM79: Nite Hypatia RowrBasil: STAR. in words. BLR WIZ: LOL Drg. sort of like how can I start to fly. Right Now. OnlineHost: Hypatia141 has left the room. HOST EBK Chip: You can either just tell the resident host... HOST EBK Lyra: Night Tia HOST EBK Chip: Or post it in our Chat Topics folder. BLR WIZ: Bye Hyp STARMOM79: ok HOST EBK Chip: And STAR brings up a good point, folks...we're always eager for chat topics. STARMOM79: Can I tell you now? or do I have to get you on E Mail? HOST EBK Chip: Nope, now is fine, STAr. HOST EBK Lyra: STAR, now that you've gotten everybody curious, you really do have to tell. HOST EBK Chip: We do 365 of these things a year, remember. We *want* your suggestions. BLR WIZ: Since chats usually degenerate into talking about pets...... BLR WIZ: Joe, are you more of a car or a dog person? HOST EBK Chip: LOL Lyra. E cat s: car? Meinhardt7: lol BLR DerHexer: Car or dog?? BLR WIZ: ouch.. Car= Cat STARMOM79: OK, If it were possible to get a degree in SF. How would you design the curriculum. What Meinhardt7: The car usually wins that one. BLR WIZ: darn thiess hands. Araiused: bLR, his car drinks RowrBasil: i think you mean, 'worthless parasitic lump of fleas and fur' HOST EBK Chip: I think Joe is still incommunicado, BLR. E cat s: It doesn't anywhere I've ever been, BLR Drgafia1: "My mother, the cat...er, car..." HOST EBK Chip: Oooh! I like it, STAR! Araiused: Cool, STAR! STARMOM79: courses would you design? What would be the core curriculum? What would be required reading? BLR WIZ: LOL Ara. I was paying attention DerHexer: That's a good topic E cat s: LOL 7! Drgafia1: Hey, that >would< be fun... HOST EBK Chip: You don't think ticks would take offense at that description, Rowr? BLR WIZ: But if they get stopped for a DUI? Who gets the ticke? Joe or the Car? HOST EBK Chip: Okay, the hosts in the room right now...who wants it? HOST EBK Chip: The ones not in attendance can go begging. Drgafia1: That's teach 'em... RowrBasil: Chip..they can write in their complaints... Araiused: You're not grabbing it,Chip? HOST EBK Chip: I'm being polite, Ara. HOST EBK Chip: I'll happily take it, though. HOST EBK Lyra: I think Chip just claimed it STARMOM79: Do you like it? really? HOST EBK Chip: Yeah, STAR. Neat idea. HOST EBK Chip: I'll ask Shadow to stick it into rotation. Should show up in four or five weeks. Drgafia1: Star, I do think it's fascinating...I mean, how DO you qualify for a degree in it? Drgafia1: The bachelor's, the master's and the PhSF.... BLR WIZ: Just as long as the degree isn't F 451 Drgafia1: OUch! Araiused: May be scientifictioned degrees, Dr G HOST EBK Lyra: hmmmm how much math would such a degree require-----and how about computer literacy? RowrBasil: Drg..teaching SF. Great..then watch the test results plummet.. Drgafia1: We wd no doubt wind up agree that it's ALL just a matter of degree... HOST EBK Chip: LOL BLR HOST EBK Chip: Good question, Lyra. Would it require at least a basic knowledge of science? BLR WIZ: Basoc Book Burning course #451 E cat s: LOL BLR HOST EBK Lyra: LOL BLR I just caught that Drgafia1: Lyra, you're getting into being a fan of sf. Then you could have basic con running, fanzine Drgafia1: publishing, the "one upsmanship" of fan clubs.... HOST EBK Lyra: LOLOL Drg BLR WIZ: Filk Singing 101 Drgafia1: Yes! HOST EBK Lyra: Costuming for fun and profit STARMOM79: Filk singing? DerHexer: You could have hoarding (sorry, collecting) SF paperbacks Araiused: They do that at cons, STAR Drgafia1: Filk singing is singing fannish folk songs.... STARMOM79: silk flinging Drgafia1: "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the fan/... BLR WIZ: Filk Singing is the Fanish version of Folk Singing. STARMOM79: they doo that at dressmakers HOST EBK Chip: Patt would be the gal to talk about filking. HOST EBK Chip: She's a master of the art. Drgafia1: He is tramplingout the places with Astounding on the stand..." RowrBasil: LYRA, just got letter from my High School Library- HOST EBK Lyra: LOL STAR Drgafia1: "his fantasy collection is the greatest in the land!" HOST EBK Lyra: Rowr, a thank you? Drgafia1: "Forrest J goes marching on. Forry, Forry, Hallelueah...." Drgafia1: &c.... HOST EBK Chip: LOL Drg RowrBasil: 'We really appreciate the donation of your books to our library, Books by well-known writers STARMOM79: I think we held it in for too long befire RowrBasil: and in such good condition are always a welcome RowrBasil: additiion to our collection. Thank you for thinking of us. DerHexer: That was nice of you, Rowr HOST EBK Lyra: Cool, Rowr!!! Drgafia1: Correction: Filk-singing was a typo made by Karen Anderwon, wife of Poul Anderson, a typo Drgafia1: that Made Good... RowrBasil: Our science fiction fans will be especially grateful.' HOST EBK Chip: Yup. Now Rowr can be responsible for warping a whole new generation. RowrBasil: I kept the Heinleins, though. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Rowr. But of course. OnlineHost: PMSallume has entered the room. DerHexer: What should it have been DrG, fulksinging? HOST EBK Chip: Hiya, PM BLR WIZ: then there is hope for the rest of us typpoits. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Der STARMOM79: Hi PMS Meinhardt7: Hi PM HOST EBK Lyra: It beats hanging around schoolyards with books ----- BLR WIZ: Hi PM RowrBasil: You have have my Heinleins when you take them from my cold dead hands.. E cat s: Hi PM PMSallume: HI all! HOST EBK Lyra: PMSallume, welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe BLR WIZ: I argee on that Rowr. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Rowr PMSallume: What's up for tonight? DerHexer: Before I married The Redhead I dated a girl was really into filking, but that's a topic for STARMOM79: you missed Joe Haldeman DerHexer: another chat room RowrBasil: But they got 3 shelves worth of Asimov.. DerHexer: Hi PMS Drgafia1: PMSal, I think it's 180 degree opposite to the pull of gravity almost all of the time... HOST EBK Lyra: I just now started putting my books into a database------it's really intimidating. PMSallume: I know...he isn't an author I have read...so I didn't miss anything for me HOST EBK Lyra: Neat, Rowr!! BLR WIZ: Lyra, I did a bit at a time for a while. PMSallume: Lyra, I started doing that back in the 80's..with the combined collection of hubby and me Araiused: He is still lurking, PM STARMOM79: ooooowww PMSallume: I never got finished HOST EBK Chip: Lyra, you'll be thrilled when you're done. HOST EBK Chip: I love databases. BLR WIZ: Then after my neck surgery, it gave me something to do. PMSallume: Ahh...no problem Ara... Drgafia1: PMSal, you should really try his Hugo-winner, if nothing else, to see if you might like his HOST EBK Lyra: I just realized that if something happened to the books, HOST EBK Lyra: I'd have no idea what value to put on them STARMOM79: One thing I would love to have is one of those battle suits. When you point your finger and Drgafia1: stuff. I believe it was also distinguished by the fact that it was #1 on the NYTimes best PMSallume: I would love to read more, just don't have the time or money for books right now. DerHexer: Well, I haven't been feeling well. Think I got a touch of mad cow disease. Araiused: Eek, Der STARMOM79: say bang, it goes BANG Drgafia1: seller list for a few weeks running, something I've never heard of any other sf book doing.. DerHexer: CYA later PMSallume: I do wish I did have both those in more abundance. HOST EBK Lyra: backing away from Der OnlineHost: DerHexer has left the room. Araiused: Later, Der E cat s: Later, Der Meinhardt7: G'night Der Drgafia1: "And they all moved away from me on the Group W bench..." STARMOM79: Nite Der BLR WIZ: Just before comming to the room. I looked at my SF book BLR WIZ: database and sorted by author. So then I printed out the BLR WIZ: 12 book by Joe to have as refferecne. PMSallume: In my skim through the people list, I skimmed right over the obvious 'Haldeman Joe' Doh! RowrBasil: "And creating a nuisance..." PMSallume: Hi Joe! Drgafia1: Right, Rowr! PMSallume: Drg! Rofl!!! HOST EBK Lyra: It occurred to me that I could list the writers in the old HOST EBK Lyra: Analog and Galaxy and and so that I could pull up a HOST EBK Lyra: list.g and Galaxy and and so that I could pull up a E cat s: Cool setup, BLR BLR WIZ: Thx E STARMOM79: I went to the library and cleaned them out. I just have some (how do you spell excertexercts STARMOM79: ? HOST EBK Chip: Yup, Lyra; I maintain a *lot* of info in various databases. HOST EBK Chip: Um...excerpts? STARMOM79: yes PMSallume: I used to read Analog because hubby got subscription...since the split..nothing Meinhardt7: Excorcists? STARMOM79: I still miss Omni Meinhardt7: *er Araiused: me too, star STARMOM79: I could just kill Guccione RowrBasil: Had sub to F&&SF, Analog, Asimov's..just took up too much shelf space.. HOST EBK Chip: There's no analogue for Analog, that's true. PMSallume: exercises? BLR WIZ: E, it wasn't until the chat was almost over, that I realized BLR WIZ: that Joe's Worlds @1981 was # 1 in the database. RowrBasil: Loved it when one company issued microfiche of All Astounding magazines from 1930s on..) E cat s: That was neat, BLR. Too bad he didn't see that one HOST EBK Lyra: Some of the stories that pop up without an author or HOST EBK Lyra: title are from as far back as the early 60s Analogs Drgafia1: It wouldn't be fair to say Analog got dull; it just ceased to be Astounding... RowrBasil: That microfiche set, at least years 1939-41 or so, are in LASFS now.. STARMOM79: See, this stuff would be in the SFhistory course BLR WIZ: An oldie but goodie, E PMSallume: My ex has two of the three issues of Analog that had installments of Heinlein OnlineHost: RhoadKyll2 has left the room. Drgafia1: Where "in" LASFS, Rowr? They have some place to keep stuff like that? HOST EBK Chip: I read WORLDS, and, by the time the second book HOST EBK Chip: in the series came out, I had forgotten the subject HOST EBK Chip: matter. HOST EBK Chip: LOL, Drg. PMSallume: story...can't remember which one though. But it was at least as old as he was RowrBasil: Drg..in a little box, on the shelf near the wall on the left side of the room.. Drgafia1: LOL. OnlineHost: Patterner has entered the room. RowrBasil: about 3rd shelf up, two down.. HOST EBK Chip: Hi Patt! BLR WIZ: Hi Patt E cat s: Hi Patterner Patterner: Hi folks! Araiused: hi patt HOST EBK Lyra: Hi, Patt welcome! STARMOM79: Hi Patt PMSallume: Hey Patt Meinhardt7: HI Patt OnlineHost: REGENTIC has entered the room. Patterner: Hi Rowr! Hi DrG! Hi STAR! Hi BLR! Hi PMS! Patterner: Hi Ara! Hi E! Hi Lyra! Hi Mein! Hi Chip! Hi Patterner: REG! Hi Joe! BLR WIZ: Yo REG E cat s: Hi REG REGENTIC: Evening gang STARMOM79: Hi REG HOST EBK Chip: Joe is lurking, Patt. He announced his exit at about HOST EBK Lyra: REGENTIC, welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe HOST EBK Chip: 11, but we think he may have just minimized AOL. HOST EBK Chip: Hi REG! Patterner: LOL Okay. PMSallume: rowr, in a box by the door? Along with the angry badgers? Drgafia1: PMSal, Heinlein had a lot of stuff in aSF from the late '30s up to...oh, the late '40s. RowrBasil: PMS..tell em Hari Seldon sent you.. STARMOM79: but we were sooo good. You'd have been proud HOST EBK Chip: Along with Eleanor Rigby's face, PMS. PMSallume: Where am I going? STARMOM79: ????? RowrBasil: just directions re LASFS Drgafia1: To the future... PMSallume: hehehehee RowrBasil: I went to the future. Didnt like the looks of it. Cancelled my reservations. PMSallume: I was referencing a B5 quote, (again) Drgafia1: Or actually, the directions are de profundis ad astra, what? Haldeman Joe: Hi, this is Gay H. I just came in and found that Joe hadn't logged out. HOST EBK Chip: You can do that without penalty if use use Amex, Rowr. Drgafia1: Hi, Gay! rich brown here, writing purplish prose... RowrBasil: Who are you? What do you want? are the 2 B5 questions.. PMSallume: Hi Gay...! Meinhardt7: Hi Mrs. H! HOST EBK Chip: LOL...we thought he was waiting for us to talk about him, Gay! Patterner: We wondered why he was still on. STARMOM79: Hi Gay Haldeman Joe: I tried saving the chat to my computer so _I_ can read it. BLR WIZ: To the future at the frightfull rate of one sec. / xec. Unless Drgafia1: Tell Joe we've been saying terible thing about him behind his back, now... BLR WIZ: Joe can get us tickets on the Relativity Express? HOST EBK Chip: We'll send you the log, Gay. HOST EBK Lyra: Hi, Gay HOST EBK Lyra: We'll have the log up shortly RowrBasil: We've been plotting a coup de ville- HOST EBK Lyra: LOL BLR WIZ: lol Araiused: We've been saying things behind Joe's back... Haldeman Joe: Hi, rich! Hi, everybody. Drgafia1: Also gonna coup the grass... PMSallume: To Planet X Rowr? HOST EBK Chip: Coup de Ville has a fin de sicle, right? RowrBasil: or a cruella de ville.. BLR WIZ: I can't coup with all the puns. PMSallume: I thought it was u ni cycle? STARMOM79: viscious sicle RowrBasil: Good news from home, after they moved out the books, mom&dad brought my batttleships down RowrBasil: from the attic. RowrBasil: put them on the shelves.. Drgafia1: No, the Vicious Circle is a different writer's group... HOST EBK Chip: Cool, Rowr! Haldeman Joe: Thanks, everyone. Joe said it was a good chat. Now I'm gonna log out and fold up. Araiused: Nite, Gay! Drgafia1: Nite! Patterner: Night, Gay! E cat s: Night STARMOM79: Nite BLR WIZ: A blast from the past, Rowr. HOST EBK Chip: Night, Gay! Thanks again! Haldeman Joe: Night, all. HOST EBK Chip: Thanks to Joe! OnlineHost: Meinhardt7 has left the room. Patterner: Anybody need a fortified French castle & title? BLR WIZ: Thx Joe Patterner: There's one on sale on eBay for 4mill, and it's Patterner: got a bid. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Patt. Who doesn't? STARMOM79: that's neat! Could buy it and restage Timeline Haldeman Joe: I'll say "You're welcome" from Joe. E cat s: That sounds like a bargain... But I guess it's the upkeep that kills you. HOST EBK Chip: Me, I want to be the first on my block to own a catapult. Makes the neighbors nervous. PMSallume: Don't need a title, could name it myself! OnlineHost: Haldeman Joe has left the room. Drgafia1: Wow. Great place to have some chateau briand...altho I suppose one should decide on the HOST EBK Chip: (Shadow wants to know if a fortified French castle is one with extra alcohol.) REGENTIC: Wizard of OZ for the 21st Century: "I'm am the Great and Powerful AOL-Time Warner! Pay Drgafia1: meat before choosing the wine.... REGENTIC: monthly access fees to the Case behind the curtain." Patterner: Oh, DrG, you used that too recently! PMSallume: Anyway..I'd prefer an Irish or English castle personally BLR WIZ: I have a castle in Scotland waiting for me if only I can BLR WIZ: come up with the back taxes for 2 or 3 hundred years. OnlineHost: FIJAGDH has entered the room. RowrBasil: Wouldnt mind a case behind the curtain.. Drgafia1: Patt, the old jokes are the best. I should know... Patterner: Hi FIJ! BLR WIZ: LOL REG RowrBasil: a good bordeaux case? E cat s: Hi FIJ Drgafia1: No reason to wine about it... STARMOM79: a bordeaux line case REGENTIC: <---frequently recycles my jokes too Drgafia1: ..altho any port in a storm... PMSallume: Is it time to impose the Pun Tax? RowrBasil: may you stand close to an angry Tuscan, and get a Tuscany in the nads.. Araiused: Night, folks, I have work to do. PMSallume: We could afford one months aol for someone at this rate! Araiused: See ya soon BLR WIZ: Bye Ara REGENTIC: Night Ara HOST EBK Chip: Night, Ara! OnlineHost: Araiused has left the room. E cat s: Night, Ara Patterner: Night, Ara! Drgafia1: LASFS still have that? Barney Bernard died in 1979, as I understand... STARMOM79: If we taxed puns around here, we'd have enough money to buy the castle ourselves HOST EBK Chip: LOL STAR Drgafia1: Star, how do you think LASFS got its clubhouse? Patterner: I hear the flat fee is going up to $23.95. HOST EBK Chip: I think the puns act as a natural defense, STAR. REGENTIC: Really? HOST EBK Chip: Nobody wants to be near us anyway. PMSallume: Exactly..when I was doing regular gaming, we'd impose pun tax and got a pizza in a month! REGENTIC: afk HOST EBK Chip: Like Disneyland, Patt. They keep slowly raising rates. BLR WIZ: LOL HOST EBK Lyra: LOL Chip STARMOM79: what is LASF? HOST EBK Chip: PM, you'd have liked a friend of mine. Patterner: Oh, Chip, did you see that Disney is liquidating Patterner: their failed Go.com portal? PMSallume: Los Angeles Science Fiction Society RowrBasil: League of Angry Super Females.. Drgafia1: And a pun, you know, established the line of Apolestic succession (have I spelled that rite? HOST EBK Chip: Really, Patt? Unsurprising. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Rowr BLR WIZ: Thx for the chat Lyra, Chip. Night all. Patterner: Yep, it was in the business section of the Post Patterner: today. HOST EBK Chip: Night, BLR! OnlineHost: BLR WIZ has left the room. STARMOM79: Apostolic? HOST EBK Lyra: Night, BLR! E cat s: Night, BLR PMSallume: Thanks Star..raised Catholic and totally blanked on how to spell that! Drgafia1: That's it. LASFS is the second oldest sf club going... HOST EBK Chip: PM, he once had an enormously complex dungeon. HOST EBK Chip: You fought your way downward, and in the middle HOST EBK Chip: you found...the chocolate center. PMSallume: (not past tense) RowrBasil: The internet stocks have made the plot of Lover Come Back seem plausible.. PMSallume: lol!!! HOST EBK Chip: I'll have to contact some of my friends from there, Patt. HOST EBK Lyra: LOL Rowr HOST EBK Chip: Although they probably bailed out long ago. RowrBasil: 'advertiser selling VIP, a product that does not yet exist' PMSallume: I had a freind that had a dungeon that had as one of the 'monsters' a 3rd grade teacher PMSallume: with her class on a field trip! HOST EBK Chip: LOL Rowr HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL PM HOST EBK Lyra: Rowr----I liked that one a lot RowrBasil: I love relaxing watching old Doris Day/Rock Hudson movies.. HOST EBK Chip: PM, this same friend had a monster called "Him." HOST EBK Chip: Which was perfectly harmless, unless you met it in a Drgafia1: LOL, PMSal. I rolled up a character once who had no characteristic over a "9". I named him HOST EBK Chip: dark alley. Drgafia1: Gerald Ford... STARMOM79: Having to do with nothing--Mel Brook's The Producers is going on Broadway. I laughed so had PMSallume: The janitor had a +3 broom for whacking the monsters back into their rooms! HOST EBK Chip: Y'know...you wouldn't want to meet "Him" in a dark alley. STARMOM79: a sore side and tears running down my cheeks RowrBasil: STAR..WHAT!!!!!! HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL PM STARMOM79: hard RowrBasil: you cant be serious. HOST EBK Chip: LOL STAR PMSallume: gotta go make a phone call! Hold that topic until I get back! Patterner: LOL OnlineHost: PMSallume has left the room. RowrBasil: The pit of hell has opened, The apocalypse is upon us.. STARMOM79: The Producers is being made into a musical-saw it on TV this AM HOST EBK Chip: Rowr, I knew that was happening when Metallica did a Bob Seger cover. RowrBasil: Sprintime for Hitler will actually be on Broadway. Patterner: Oh, hmm, a musical? STARMOM79: Yesss RowrBasil: Springtime Patterner: I usually like musicals... STARMOM79: Sprintime for Hitler And Germannny Drgafia1: Yes, Springtime... FIJAGDH: ~0/...winter for Poland and France/0~ HOST EBK Lyra: FIJAGDH, welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe RowrBasil: no..no..I will not sing, I will not sing. HOST EBK Chip: Too late, Rowr. RowrBasil: "I am author. You are audience. I OUTRANK You.' Drgafia1: Hi, Fijagdh; whatta you say to people who say it's really fiawol? HOST EBK Lyra: is OK Rowr, I already turned off chat sounds HOST EBK Chip: LOL Lyra STARMOM79: The plot is that a producer sells 2000% of a stage play and tries to find a surefire flop Patterner: Get a life, DrG? FIJAGDH: I say "GAL", Drg. FIJAGDH: GMTA, Patt. RowrBasil: STAR..I thought it was the plot behind making 'Yentl' Drgafia1: You and Francis Towner Laney, eh? LOL HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Rowr RowrBasil: STAR..when the trailer for Yentl appearred in theaters.. HOST EBK Lyra: A plethora of quotes tonight RowrBasil: I saw same reaction as to opening of Spring Time for Hitler. STARMOM79: Yentl? RowrBasil: always 1 guy applauded. HOST EBK Chip: LOL Rowr RowrBasil: We beat him senseless, of course. HOST EBK Chip: LOLOL Rowr STARMOM79: I loved the scene where Gene Wilder is shrieking I"m wet and I'm laughing RowrBasil: I'm wet. I'm in pain, and I'm still hysterical! HOST EBK Lyra: LOL STAR HOST EBK Chip: Okay, folks, it's that time... HOST EBK Chip: Well folks, our time is up, but you all are welcome to HOST EBK Chip: stay here and chat. If you have any problems, feel HOST EBK Chip: free to bellow for help at Keyword: NOTIFY AOL... Patterner: Thanks, Chip! Good chat! Patterner: See y'all tomorrow! STARMOM79: and Zero Mostel romances all those old ladies. Nathan Lane is doing Zero Mostel's Part and E cat s: Thanks, Chip, Lyra !! OnlineHost: Patterner has left the room.