The opinions expressed in this chat are not necessarily those of The Other*Worlds*Cafe or America Online. OnlineHost: OnlineHost: *** You are in "Other Worlds SF Chat". *** OnlineHost: RELM Muse: Hi Michael! RELM Muse: You're early. :) O Flainn: I wanted to be sure I could find the place. RELM Muse: Good idea. ;) OnlineHost: Gandalara has entered the room. RELM Muse: Did you see the promotional area? RELM Muse: Hi Gand! RELM Muse: Author chat! Gandalara: Ahoy! RELM Muse: Welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe! RELM Muse: We're talking with SF author Michael Flynn! Gandalara: Can I call you Mike? :) O Flainn's hard to type. RELM Muse: Who is O Flainn -- I take it that's an Irish version? OnlineHost: JJ Brannon has entered the room. RELM Muse: Gand is one of your big fans. :) RELM Muse: Hi JJ! RELM Muse: Welcome! Meet O Flainn, aka RELM Muse: Michael Flynn, science fiction author! RELM Muse: Join the O*W*C for guest chat! O Flainn: O Flainn is the Irish for Flynn. And sure, Mike is OK. Gandalara: I've been pushing FIRESTAR for about a year :) Gandalara: Hi JJ! RELM Muse: Yes, and I have a copy to give out tonight. :) O Flainn: With any success? Gandalara: Some..... JJ Brannon: Hi, all Gandalara: I urge teachers to read it O Flainn: Greetings, JJ RELM Muse: The Publisher's Weekly synopsis for ROGUE STAR says... RELM Muse: something about how your blue-collar spaceguys could have come right out... JJ Brannon: Hi, Mike.. RELM Muse: of an Allen Steele novel, and Allen is one of our members, and popular here,.. RELM Muse: so I think folks will like your books, too. Gandalara: Except now I'm hunting for the short story book. RELM Muse: You know, I was glad to hear that FIRESTAR was only the first part of the story -- RELM Muse: I wanted to know more about what happened with the space program,... O Flainn: Several reviewers have commented on parallels to Steele. RELM Muse: and I also thought that Mariesa's marriage was left in an odd state. Realistic, but odd. RELM Muse: Gand, they don't have it at Amazon? Gandalara: I was more like, "No...it can't end that way!" Gandalara: LOL - I'm so used to going the other places, I forgot about Amamzon Gandalara: er Amazon RELM Muse: How did you come up with the idea for FIRESTAR? O Flainn: Have you read ROGUE STAR? There is some further action with Barry. Gandalara: Waiting for SFBC to deliver it RELM Muse: I've ordered it from SFBC, but it hasn't come yet. I *do* have two covers... RELM Muse: for it from Tor. ;) (which is where I got the cover images) O Flainn: I'm a slow typer. Bear with me while I answer queries from several lines ago... RELM Muse: Okay. :) Gandalara: Your view of education was so chilling. It hooked me immediately. JJ Brannon: I have an embarrassing admission -- I haven't read the "*Star" series...yet. RELM Muse: You *have* to, JJ! Really interesting ideas on education & space. JJ Brannon: But I just discovered that Michael is the author of one of my favorite hard SF serials: O Flainn: Idea for FIRESTAR. Many sources, actually. One was an image that JJ Brannon: Washer at the Ford. OnlineHost: Borg Drone has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Borg! RELM Muse: Welcome! We have the 1991 Compton RELM Muse: Crook winner with us: Michael Flynn! RELM Muse: Chat about his books and writing with RELM Muse: the Other*Worlds*Cafe! Gandalara: Hi Borg! Borg Drone: Hi everyone O Flainn: did not make it into the book, of a woman standing outside a JJ Brannon: Nuclear physics meets with Celtic legends. RELM Muse: Mike/O Flainn is talking about the idea for FIRESTAR. O Flainn: classroom door listening to nonsense going on inside. O Flainn: Talking about it in disjoint pieces.... OnlineHost: Evrt63 has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Ev! RELM Muse: Welcome! You've found the RELM Muse: Other*Worlds*Cafe and we have SF RELM Muse: author Michael Flynn joining us for chat! RELM Muse: Say Hi to O Flainn! Evrt63: hey i made it Borg Drone: Hi Gandalara: Hi Ev! Evrt63: hi all O Flainn: "Washer at the Ford"? Really? I've never been happy with that one. OnlineHost: BLR WIZ has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi BLR! RELM Muse: Author! Author! RELM Muse: Look who's here! RELM Muse: Michael Flynn's the RELM Muse: O*W*C's cheer! Gandalara: Mariesa is such an obssessed, cold woman. She's very hard to like, IMO Gandalara: Hi BLR! JJ Brannon: Why not? BLR WIZ: Hi Muse, EV, Borg, JJ, Gand, O F RELM Muse: I dunno, Gand, I really identified with her (boy, what does that say about me?) Borg Drone: Hi BLR Gandalara: LOL RELM Muse: She has a goal, and she's working toward it. O Flainn: Congratulations, Gand. Some reviewers feel she is a "normative" character. Gandalara: Well, so did the astronaut. I liked him better RELM Muse: And, I suspect, some of my affection for her comes from growing up and ... RELM Muse: working in the defense industry. O Flainn: The never realize how troubled she is. RELM Muse: You mean subsuming her personal life into her professional life? OnlineHost: SpleenVent has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Spleen! BLR WIZ: HI Spleen RELM Muse: Welcome to O*W*C! O Flainn/Michael Flynn Gandalara: Hi SPleen! RELM Muse: is our special guest tonight! Join in the chat! O Flainn: SpleenVent? Sounds ominous..... RELM Muse: LOL Borg Drone: Hi Spleen Evrt63: it is SpleenVent: :) SpleenVent: I am SpleenVent: Hi everyone Evrt63: hi spleen O Flainn: Yes, RELM. She is so irrationally terrified of Impact that she has almost no other life. Gandalara: And I felt so sorry for Mariesa's husband. But then I figured he Gandalara: knew what he was getting into. OnlineHost: RobSorenze has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Rob! RELM Muse: Author chat! RELM Muse: Welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe! RELM Muse: We're talking with SF author Michael Flynn! Gandalara: Hi ROb! Borg Drone: Hi RELM Muse: Well, he obviously decided to continue his liaison with the other teacher... RobSorenze: brb have to change clothes... OnlineHost: RobSorenze has left the room. JJ Brannon: Mike, what is your favorite story or top three? RELM Muse: when he found Mariesa was so uninvolved. O Flainn: Yeah, poor Barry. He likes to please; and drifts with the tide. O Flainn: In a way, Barry was loyal to all his committments, even his shady ones. OnlineHost: HackerSnac has entered the room. RELM Muse: But they're conflicting loyalties, so he's left betraying someone. RELM Muse: Hi Hack! OnlineHost: Knucles2 has entered the room. Gandalara: Hi Hack! RELM Muse: Hi Knuc! Borg Drone: Hi Hack RELM Muse: Welcome! Meet O Flainn, aka RELM Muse: Michael Flynn, science fiction author! RELM Muse: Join the O*W*C for guest chat! SpleenVent: Hiya Hacker Gandalara: Hi Knuc! Knucles2: Bac! HackerSnac: Hey all O Flainn: JJ: my favorite stories of others, or of mine? Evrt63: who's barry? RELM Muse: He's the male protagonist of FIRESTAR. OnlineHost: DMeriman has entered the room. RELM Muse: Or maybe the supporting male. RELM Muse: Hi DM! RELM Muse: Welcome! We have the 1991 Compton RELM Muse: Crook winner with us: Michael Flynn! RELM Muse: Chat about his books and writing with RELM Muse: the Other*Worlds*Cafe! Gandalara: Hi DM! JJ Brannon: Of your own...This is your hour OnlineHost: TAMARAC223 has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi TAM! RELM Muse: Welcome! You've found the Evrt63: oh ok iwas starting to wonder if you guys new barry white or something RELM Muse: Other*Worlds*Cafe and we have SF RELM Muse: author Michael Flynn joining us for chat! RELM Muse: Say Hi to O Flainn! RELM Muse: LOL Ev! Borg Drone: May I ask what book we're discussing? Gandalara: Mike, if this is a series...when will the asteroids hit? :) Third or Fourth book? Gandalara: Hi TAM! TAMARAC223: Hi, Muse RELM Muse: FIRESTAR and ROGUE STAR right now, but Mike has more books out,... RELM Muse: too. RELM Muse: To see information on Michael Flynn's RELM Muse: books, cut and paste this to the keyword RELM Muse: prompt: RELM Muse: aol://4344:1412.owcflynn.8294148.579473368 OnlineHost: DMeriman has left the room. TAMARAC223: Hi,Michael? Mr. Flynn? RELM Muse: Mike. :) O Flainn: Of mine.... Let's see. "Melodies of the Heart." "Remember'd Kisses." "Mammy Morgan..." TAMARAC223: Hi Gand TAMARAC223: ;) Hi, Mike SpleenVent: Hiya Tam JJ Brannon: Looks like I'm going to be hunting the stacks... Gandalara: Wasn't FIRESTAR nominated for either a Hugo or Neb? TAMARAC223: Hi, Spleen O Flainn: Gand: Asteroid impact? What asteroid impact. (Image of innocence) Gandalara: LOL Gandalara: I *love* disasters :) TAMARAC223: He's as good at that as Gand is RELM Muse: LOL Borg Drone: where do you get your ideas? Gandalara: :::innocent look ::: JJ Brannon: Mike, where'd you get the picture of the young guy propped up at the front door? TAMARAC223: See? RELM Muse: LOL JJ, I think it was his agent who sent me that. O Flainn: Besides, that movie has sort of spoiled things. I wasn't planning to rewrite O Flainn: LUCIFER"S HAMMER anyway. Borg Drone: It seems like it would be so hard to write a book. OnlineHost: E cat s has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi E! Gandalara: Hi E! RELM Muse: LTNS! RELM Muse: Author! Author! RELM Muse: Look who's here! RELM Muse: Michael Flynn's the RELM Muse: O*W*C's cheer! O Flainn: Borg: only if it is hard-back E cat s: Hi everyone!! TAMARAC223: LOL O Borg Drone: LOL Gandalara: LOL RELM Muse: LOL BLR WIZ: LOL JJ Brannon: How does your day job influence the direction of your writing? Borg Drone: very punny O Flainn: Well, or erotica... RELM Muse: You've been writing erotica? Evrt63: space babes? O Flainn: No, but it would be hard to write it RELM Muse: LOL Gandalara: collaborating with Anne Rice :) SpleenVent: zero G erotica? JJ Brannon: Well, House of Dreams was...evocative Borg Drone: space vampires? O Flainn: Ah yes. "House of Dreams" was originally intended for Gardner's DYING FOR IT O Flainn: anthology of erotic ghost stories. Evrt63: space stewardess vixens from venus? RELM Muse: LOL Ev! JJ Brannon: The heroine was plaintively attractive... Borg Drone: sounds like something from Bloom County E cat s: Broom Parish? O Flainn: Sex in ziggy is difficult. The don't call it the Three Dolphin Club for nothing Gandalara: If possible, I'd like a short synopsis (?) of Rogue Star :) JJ Brannon: There has been at least one married couple in orbit... E cat s: "How many does it take?" Evrt63: uh this is a g rated chat room isn't it? O Flainn: ROGUE STAR takes place in 2009/10. There are four threads: Knucles2: ::::waits patiently for explanation of Three Dolphin Club:::: RELM Muse: Yes, Ev! Evrt63: just checking RELM Muse: While Mike types, let me give you the URL for a con report on his talk... Borg Drone: is'nt it nice for a change? JJ Brannon: But all those physiological effects reported [hypotension, etc.] make one wonder why bother? RELM Muse: on the use & misuse of statistics: RELM Muse: http://sflovers.rutgers.edu/fandom/conventions/Boskone34.ConReport.html#statistics RELM Muse: Be sure to join "conventions" back together. Gandalara: Ah! I was going to ask him about that! LOL RELM Muse: Evelyn Leeper gave him a good review! Borg Drone: brb O Flainn: 1) .... Oh. Knucks. Zero-g. Push and things float away from you. Gandalara: LOL Knucles2: LOL RELM Muse: Well, and you float away from them. O Flainn: The 3rd dolphin is there to hold the other in place. Knucles2: roflol Gandalara: And it's name is Flip-her? OnlineHost: TAMARAC223 has left the room. Gandalara: Thwapping self. Evrt63: ouch Knucles2: As long as I can choose the third....sounds kinky.... OnlineHost: TAMARAC223 has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi again, TAM! Gandalara: re's TAM TAMARAC223: back Knucles2: Hi Tam Borg Drone: back JJ Brannon: Careful there's a child overlooking my shoulder... TAMARAC223: Hi, Knuck O Flainn: OK. ROGUE STAR. 1) Forrest Calhoun, the Iron Mike, and Nacho in deep space to 1991JW E cat s: brb OnlineHost: E cat s has left the room. O Flainn: 2) President Donaldson wants Mariesa to help him put weapons on the space station a-building Gandalara: stupid politicians. ALways mucking things up. O Flainn: 3) Flaco and his panas are building Leo Station. Evrt63: hey more firepower is always a plus RELM Muse: Well, it's against the treaty. O Flainn: 4) Roberta (Styx) intends to bring Mariesa down and begins looking for scandal Borg Drone: just ask India Gandalara: Ah! Roberta! Very interesting character. OnlineHost: T83BIRD has entered the room. RELM Muse: Yeah, kind of the ex-smoker variety. RELM Muse: Hi T8! T83BIRD: Hi, all. RELM Muse: Welcome to O*W*C! O Flainn/Michael Flynn Knucles2: Hi Bird RELM Muse: is our special guest tonight! Join in the chat! Gandalara: Your books have a lot of ebssessed characters in them Borg Drone: T-Bird! SpleenVent: Hiya T8 Gandalara: er obssessed O Flainn: The four threads bounce off one another in random collisions (rogue stars) BLR WIZ: Hi T8 Gandalara: Hi T! TAMARAC223: Hi, T! RELM Muse: And there is at least a third book, right? Gandalara: How long did it take to write? O Flainn: Some may also be ebsessed, if I knew what that was..... RELM Muse: LOL Knucles2: lol RELM Muse: Overcome at low tide? Gandalara: where's the typocillin? :) Borg Drone: ooooooooooLOL T83BIRD: LOL Gand Knucles2: This room has its own vocabulary.... O Flainn: About 1.5 years/book. The third volume, FALLING STAR, is half done. BLR WIZ: LOL Gand T83BIRD: The tentacular again. TAMARAC223: lol Muse RELM Muse: Yeah, and it all comes from typos. ;) RELM Muse: Ah! And is there a fourth? Gandalara: Aha! The title gives it away ! O Flainn: A 4th book is not planned, unless #3 bifurcates Borg Drone: intelligent minds think faster than they can spell. Gandalara: SPLITTING STARS? :) O Flainn: Asteroids are not the only sort of stars that can fall. T83BIRD: Better than splitting hairs, Gand. Knucles2: Borg, I'll buy any excuse that works,...... Evrt63: or spitting stars RELM Muse: LOL Borg Drone: just ask George Michael Knucles2: LOL Borg Drone: I have a million of them Knucles2: He was spelling????? RELM Muse: FIRESTAR is pretty long -- are the other two big as well? O Flainn: resistance is futile Gandalara: Each novel is basically a stand alone though. That's good T83BIRD: Then there's Robert Frost's poem, "The Star Splitter." RELM Muse: The paperback I have here as a door prize is 885 pages. O Flainn: ROGUE STAR is somewhat shorter. Dunno about FALLING STAR yet Borg Drone: I need to go assimilate a beverage.brb Gandalara: The hardback is 563. But the type is *tiny* OnlineHost: HackerSnac has left the room. RELM Muse: The hardback's *mine* and down in the bedroom, so thanks, Gand. :) O Flainn: FIRESTAR originally ended with Part 2. Part 3 was going to be with ROGUE STAR. OnlineHost: Shadowjakk has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Shadow! RELM Muse: Author chat! RELM Muse: Welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe! RELM Muse: We're talking with SF author Michael Flynn! SpleenVent: hiya Shadow O Flainn: But David Hartwell thought too many threads were still dangling at the end of #2 Gandalara: Hi Shadow! Evrt63: brb T83BIRD: Hi Shadow TAMARAC223: Hi, Shadow! Shadowjakk: Hi Muse, Michael! Borg Drone: Denver is running a 2 hour Star Trek during Seinfeld. Shadowjakk: Hi all! RELM Muse: Yeah, I saw it was edited by Hartwell -- he's an excellent editor. T83BIRD: Seinfeld is over here. Borg Drone: How come none of us are watching? Knucles2: Shadowjakk, Hi BLR WIZ: Hi Shadow RELM Muse: I haven't watched "Seinfeld" in years. I listen to enough whining in real life. ; Borg Drone: Hi Shadow RELM Muse: ;) at the end there. :) T83BIRD: Did you watch Seinfeld, BLR? TAMARAC223: Both over here, Borg Borg Drone: Amen to that. Life's too short. Gandalara: Um, didn't you have something to do with Fallen Angels too? Gandalara: The fans' save the astronaut book? Forgive my memory. O Flainn: In FIRESTAR is a reference to a whiny NYC Boomer sitcom. TAMARAC223: about nothing? Gandalara: LOL O Flainn: FALLEN ANGELS was Niven/Pournelle/and me BLR WIZ: Yes T8 Gandalara: hey hey, the brain's not so bad :) T83BIRD: Ok T83BIRD: I did, too. Borg Drone: unfortunately, most of my neighbors try to live the Seinfeld lifestyle. JJ Brannon: I thought it was You and Pournelle & Niven... Shadowjakk: That's the problem with near-future SF. Shows are still in re-run syndication. :) Knucles2: That's where I saw your name... Gandalara: LOL JJ RELM Muse: LOL Gand! BLR WIZ: LOL T83BIRD: O F: My students find it hard to believe that we're already in an ice age. O Flainn: I suggested alphabetical order, but Jim Baen said do I want egoboo or to sell lots of copies JJ Brannon: How much did Darrell Schweitzer pay you for Helvatian? O Flainn: It was free JJ Shadowjakk: LOL...reverse alphabetical...it works. JJ Brannon: You know I racked my brains for hours matching people to characters. O Flainn: Bird: it's still colder than normal for an interglacial. Knucles2: You went with the $ , of course.... T83BIRD: I agree. BLR WIZ: Some things never change. O Flainn: Heck there was a character in FAllen Angels that I didn't know was real; but she swore I got Borg Drone: A man's gotta eat,Knucles. O Flainn: her perfectly Shadowjakk: People who have a working knowledge of science can Shadowjakk: usually add numbers well too, Knuc. :) Gandalara: Would you collaborate again? And with who, if you had your druthers? T83BIRD: Fallen Angels is a good story, anyway. Glad you were part of its creation. RELM Muse: And it was a much nicer vision of fans than that from McCrumb or Spinrad. Knucles2: lol OnlineHost: Stngnslm has entered the room. Gandalara: Hi Stng! T83BIRD: Hi Stng Stngnslm: evening all TAMARAC223: Hi, Stng Borg Drone: welcome Stng Knucles2: Stngnslm, Hi RELM Muse: Hi Stng! RELM Muse: Welcome! Meet O Flainn, aka RELM Muse: Michael Flynn, science fiction author! RELM Muse: Join the O*W*C for guest chat! Shadowjakk: Spinrad isn't into popularity contests, obviously. Stngnslm: waving to all present and saying hi to Micheal O Flainn: Hi, vowelless one RELM Muse: Mike, you mentioned in your folder that with FIRESTAR, you're close to ... RELM Muse: "Earning Out" for the first time. Tell us what you mean. :) Knucles2: o' personofmanyconsonents... O Flainn: The author is paid up-front an "advance against royalties." As books sell, the royalty due Shadowjakk: According to readers of Arabic and Hebrew, vowels are for people with no memories. O Flainn: is accounted. When it equals monies paid, the book has "earned out." Knucles2: wht? BLR WIZ: What was that Shadow? O Flainn: Further royalties bring New Mone Shadowjakk: No vowels in Arabic script. RELM Muse: So if it doesn't equal the advance, do you have to give some back? BLR WIZ: Huh? :) T83BIRD: Shadow, in ancient Hebrew, the vowels were part of the name of God, not written. Shadowjakk: You just have to know the word in context by its consonant signature. O Flainn: No. The publisher takes the risk. (But doesn't lose money, fer gosh sakes.) RELM Muse: LOL JJ Brannon: How encouraging...award winning author in the business for over a decade... T83BIRD: See Robert Graves': "The White Goddess." JJ Brannon: and he's just breaking even! Shadowjakk: Sounds like a comissioned salesman's draw, Michael. RELM Muse: I counted once, and I have more Tor books than any other publisher. So they.. RELM Muse: must be making *some* money. :) Stngnslm: hope not O Flainn itmust be like working on a comission (sp) RELM Muse: Tell us about your Compton Crook win - IN THE COUNTRY OF THE BLIND. O Flainn: You always go for as much up front as possible. BLR WIZ: I tried to keep count like that Muse, but I lost count. O Flainn: No one remembers IN THE COUNTRY OF THE BLIND. JJ Brannon: And publishers have accounting wizards... Stngnslm: ? that is odd thought RELM Muse: (I wasn't at that Balticon) T83BIRD: If you went for the net, you wouldn't get. O Flainn: My brothers say it would have sold better as IN THE COUNTRY OF THE BLONDE RELM Muse: Well, *I* do. ;) RELM Muse: LOLOL Shadowjakk: LOLOL BLR WIZ: LOLOL JJ Brannon: Funny, the faster the software & hardware, the later the royalty statements! Knucles2: I remember the title....not the story tho.... RELM Muse: He's probably right. :) Shadowjakk: It would have had to have been a short-short then, Michael. RELM Muse: LOL Shadow Evrt63: maybee i could write a book about a sf chat room and all of it's zany characters RELM Muse: Ev, people keep threatening that. T83BIRD: Who'd believe it, Evrt? JJ Brannon: Did the phrase originate with HG Wells? Knucles2: Evrt, nobody would believe it.... Evrt63: thats what fiction is for Shadowjakk: It'd have to be done like Malzberg's DWELLERS OF THE DEEP, Ev. O Flainn: The gist of ITCOTB: a group of folks in the 1840's who studied Babbage engines JJ Brannon: I know he played a powerful spin on the title... Gandalara: Weren't you nominated for a Hugo or a Neb. Mike? Borg Drone: AOL would want part of the royalties,Evrt O Flainn: built them and they worked. The processed data and began to notice Shadowjakk: Did it precede THE DIFFERENCE ENGINE, Michael? Stngnslm: not I T83 Evrt63: sorry i got punted b4 i heard that sharing remark O Flainn: trends. The started to act to forestall the trends. Gandalara: I remember that one. Knucles2: O Flainn, is it still in print?I like that kind of story... JJ Brannon: Hollerith invented the punch card in time for the 1880 census... O Flainn: Today (literally: it was set around now, but written what 86?) the secret Babbage Society RELM Muse: Shadow, they were published the same year. O Flainn: gets rich from its "science of history" and kills anyone who discovers them, TAMARAC223: I remember that T83BIRD: In that connection, anyone heard of software program "Timescape Zero" by Terence McKenna? O Flainn: like the heroine of the book, Sarah Beaumont. BLR WIZ: Before that, punch cards were used to control weaving looms. Shadowjakk: Aha...Steampunk ala FOCAULT'S PENDULUM. Sounds good. Stngnslm: Blr knows his history O Flainn: BTW, Sarah Beaumont and Red Malone from ITCOTB make an appearance in FIRESTAR O Flainn: under their new identities. Shadowjakk: Jacquard looms. Revolutionized the textile market. BLR WIZ: I have watched Connections a few times Stng. :) RELM Muse: They do? :::thinking hard::: Gandalara: recycling characters....how green are you? :) Borg Drone: my great grandmother was a power loom weaver in Edinburgh T83BIRD: McKenna charted points of vulneraability to major societal change in history. Stngnslm: liked the series blr have a couple of the books O Flainn: Hint: Man with knife menaces Mariesa when she is meeting with TWO VENTURE CAPITALISTS. RELM Muse: Oh! Gandalara: Ah! RELM Muse: LOL BLR WIZ: I have the 1st series on video, Stng. T83BIRD: Next major point: Dec. 21, 2012. Evrt63: the guybw/ the knife is fresh meat right? TAMARAC223: What happens then? RELM Muse: You have another book, which I haven't read, THE NANOTECH CHRONICLES... BLR WIZ: Interesting Borg.... RELM Muse: which is about molecular engineering -- tell us about that. O Flainn: Also, in FIRESTAR, Mariesa uses the forecasting firm of Detweiler & Assoc. Shadowjakk: Nothing more frightening than a Venture Capitalist...except Two Venture Capitalists. Stngnslm: i have some of it recorded RELM Muse: LOL T83BIRD: My remarks are in connection with the Babbage story about trends. OnlineHost: RIKnJAK has entered the room. JJ Brannon: My 54th birthday Shadowjakk: Hi RIK. RIKnJAK: hi T83BIRD: HI RIK Gandalara: Hi RIK! Knucles2: Hi Rik BLR WIZ: Hi RIK Stngnslm: hi rik:&jak Evrt63: hi rik SpleenVent: Hiya rlk RELM Muse: Hi RIK! RIKnJAK: Popped in to say hi - Puter gets packed tonight RELM Muse: Welcome! We have the 1991 Compton RELM Muse: Crook winner with us: Michael Flynn! RELM Muse: Chat about his books and writing with Borg Drone: Two Venture Captitalists, and one Kenneth Starr RELM Muse: the Other*Worlds*Cafe! RELM Muse: And unpacked tomorrow? TAMARAC223: ah, don't remember details---read maybe 10 years ago, T O Flainn: NANOTECH is a series of interrelated stories set in a common future. TAMARAC223: Hi, REK Borg Drone: Hi RIKnJAK: Yep TAM bout how I feel:) Gandalara: Are the stories dark? RELM Muse: LOL T83BIRD: McKenna's software is new, TAM. It's not fiction. TAMARAC223: OOOdessa where the sand comes sweeping cross the plains Shadowjakk: Muse told me you had extrapolated on the privatized Shadowjakk: education movement, Michael. Did y'all discuss that Shadowjakk: before I got here? O Flainn: Some 2ndary characters in one story become major characters in others. Evrt63: oops i gota go i'm with the homework police and i get to be the bad cop Shadowjakk: Night, Ev. Evrt63: bye all O Flainn: ((((Major posting lags)))) sheesh. Borg Drone: hey, my bifocals can't adjust that fast. Gandalara: LOL Night Ev RELM Muse: Night, Ev! T83BIRD: Nite Ev TAMARAC223: nite, Ev OnlineHost: Evrt63 has left the room. RELM Muse: Grolier's SF CD-ROM says: RELM Muse: His third, The Nanotech Chronicles (1991), presents, with all MFF's engagingly lurid RELM Muse: competence, a tale which exploits current speculations about the future of molecular RELM Muse: engineering. MFF is on the verge of becoming a central creator of HARD SF. [JC] Stngnslm: nite Ev JJ Brannon: The perils of popularity on linear discursion T83BIRD: O F: Do you think public education will end? O Flainn: "Engagingly lurid...." Gandalara: "engagingly lurid"? Cool :) RELM Muse: LOL Shadowjakk: Definitely a Clutism. "Engagingly lurid" RELM Muse: Well, they also say: RELM Muse: who soon became identified as one of the most sophisticated and stylistically acute 1980s... TAMARAC223: lurid? erotica then? RELM Muse: Analog regulars, RELM Muse: Nice words, I think. Gandalara: Yup O Flainn: BTW: the young boy in "Captive Dreams" visits his neighbor, a doctor, who has a photo of an JJ Brannon: Cute...Clute said he was cute??!! O Flainn: old woman and a young girl with progeria on his wall.... RELM Muse: LOL "acute" Borg Drone: It's awfully nice chatting with educated ,witty, open-minded adults. TAMARAC223: ;) Borg RIKnJAK: Who said we were ADULT:) O Flainn: IOW "Melodies of the Heart" fits into NANOTECH Shadowjakk: We're here every night, Borg. :) T83BIRD: We try, Borg. RELM Muse: Aha! "Melodies of the Heart"! JJ Brannon: How can a young girl have progeria? Wouldn't that make her an old girl? RELM Muse: So we'll have to read all your work to get all the information about the characters. :) Gandalara: Mike - think you'll ever collaborate again? If so who would Gandalara: you like to write with? Turtledove? :) TAMARAC223: young in years O Flainn: Well, yes... Borg Drone: I keep trying the Trek room, but can't stomach more than a few minutes. JJ Brannon: What era would you tackle with harry? O Flainn: Harry and I have been having discussions. Why did you mention Harry? Stngnslm: SciFi fans are adult ? me thinks so RELM Muse: He posts in your folder. :) T83BIRD: No surprise, Borg. Most of us have the same reaction. RIKnJAK: Well youve found the place Borg JJ Brannon: Has he given you Richard Dreyfus' phone number? BLR WIZ: There are several refugies from the Trek Room here. TAMARAC223: that's a fairly general concensus here Bors Gandalara: Because you seem to have fun punning with him on the message boards :) Shadowjakk: Punning? :) O Flainn: JJ: Rather not say. RELM Muse: Ha! Now you have Shadow's attention! RELM Muse: Shadow does regular pun chats. :) O Flainn: Me? Pun with Harry? Knucles2: uhoh Gandalara: oh so innocent...... Borg Drone: gotta go, a smaller borg needs the computer for some homework. RELM Muse: See ya, Borg! Come again! Gandalara: Night Borg O Flainn: ciao RIKnJAK: Gotta Watch SHADOW He's pretty good:) T83BIRD: Nite Borg Knucles2: Nite Borg RELM Muse: To subscribe to our weekly mailer of chat RELM Muse: topics, click on Subscribe in the listbox TAMARAC223: Nite, Borg RELM Muse: under the Chats and More button on our RELM Muse: main screen or send e-mail to JNRChip. RELM Muse: To Unsubscribe, do the same. Stngnslm: nite borg Borg Drone: Good night, may all our dreams come true. OnlineHost: Borg Drone has left the room. JJ Brannon: You realize that you, Harry and the ilk are going to keep me impoverished for the next Shadowjakk: Very innocent for someone so engagingly lurid. :) JJ Brannon: few years. RELM Muse: Hmmm.. that's actually under the Miscellany button now. I gotta change that. Gandalara: LOL BLR WIZ: LOL T83BIRD: LOL Stngnslm: Borg don't let the nanotecks bite BLR WIZ: That is the main hazard of stopping in this room. Your to read list grows faster than your BLR WIZ: wallet. T83BIRD: Much faster. O Flainn: Are there any unanswered questions hanging? JJ Brannon: Why didn't you like Washer? Stngnslm: agree Blr Gandalara: Yes :) Shadowjakk: ITCOTB was a veiled AH story, then? You're not a stranger to Alternate History? T83BIRD: Yes. Do you think public education will end, O F? Gandalara: weren't you nominated for a Hugo or a Neb? O Flainn: "Washer at the Ford": not quite sure why, JJ. Something about it never quite gelled. BLR WIZ: Do you write at home or in an office type setting? RIKnJAK: brb O Flainn: Bird: No. Though gov't run public ed may have a hard time. T83BIRD: Thanks for answering. O Flainn: Gand: Hugo noms for "The Forest of Time" "Eifelheim" and "Melodies of the Heart" O Flainn: BLR: Yes. Stngnslm: O flain gov run ed will grow increasing out of favor RELM Muse: LOL T83BIRD: You see, O F, I've worked for a public university for 38 years. RELM Muse: Mike, you travel a lot (which is why it took us so long to set up the chat)... RELM Muse: does that give you time to write in the evenings? BLR WIZ: Thanks for making that clear, Mike. :) JJ Brannon: My cousins are doing a booming business in home-schooling study aids. O Flainn: Muse: yes. Not much to do in strange motels. (Straight line Alert!!!) Shadowjakk: LOL RELM Muse: JJ, The Washington Post reported that more people are homeschooling than ever,.. TAMARAC223: lol Knucles2: T, public colleges will be hit harder,sooner... Gandalara: And another one - - Are you going to WorldCon? Need Firestar signed :) Stngnslm: PC and that are not really as popular as we are led to beleive RELM Muse: and many of them are not doing it for religious reasons. T83BIRD: I know, Kn. Gandalara: LOL Mike RELM Muse: LOL Mike! I used to travel a lot when I worked and the guys I worked with would.. JJ Brannon: Yes. Exactly how do you exert the will power to resist the boobtube in the rooms. RELM Muse: go out and drink all night and I'd be in the hotel doing needlework. Stngnslm: JJ pull the plug if necessary O Flainn: I haven't watched much TV in years RIKnJAK: Gee all I need is to see all the channels I got with Satellite and STILL NOTHING ON JJ Brannon: In Alaska, most kids are homeschooled in the interior. Knucles2: Still not much on , Mike.... JJ Brannon: With internet will we have Home-university? RELM Muse: *Are* you coming to BucConeer, Mike? Gandalara: Thanks, Muse :) T83BIRD: It's called "distance learning," JJ. RELM Muse: JJ, we already do. There are at least three full-accredited universities.. RELM Muse: on the 'net. Knucles2: Still have to pay big bucks JJ OnlineHost: Araiused has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Ara! Shadowjakk: Hi Ara. RELM Muse: Welcome! You've found the Gandalara: Hi Ara! RIKnJAK: ARA O Flainn: Gand: currently planning on worldcon. promised stan schmidt i'd play bass clarinet in the RELM Muse: Other*Worlds*Cafe and we have SF RELM Muse: author Michael Flynn joining us for chat! RELM Muse: Say Hi to O Flainn! T83BIRD: HI Ara Araiused: Hallo O Flainn: ANALOG Mafia ragtime band Stngnslm: hi Arai RELM Muse: Cool! Gandalara: Great! Knucles2: Hi Ara RELM Muse: Some of us are going, too. ;) Gandalara: Now I know to lug the book :) Araiused: Hi O Flainn :) T83BIRD: Raggedy we are, all right. O Flainn: hello JJ Brannon: I'm an early supporter... TAMARAC223: Hi, Ara RELM Muse: Gand is planning on schlepping to Oz next year, too. Shadowjakk: Ahhh...I thought the AMRG had disbanded and the Shadowjakk: members reformed as the Digital Mafia Ragtime Band. O Flainn: early supporter of the AMRagtime Band? RELM Muse: LOL Shadow! JJ Brannon: BucConeer...I'm tone-deaf. Is that your target audience? Gandalara: Um, I'm going to NasFic next year Muse. Auz is too pricey :) RELM Muse: BucConeer is the name of this year's Worldcon, in Baltimore. O Flainn: It better be. I haven't rehearsed very much.... RELM Muse: Oh, I thought you were going to try both. RELM Muse: And there's my timer! Shadowjakk: What does Stanley play? Gandalara: SIgned up for Chicago though :) RELM Muse: Time to roll for the door prize! T83BIRD: Who wins? Araiused: Same thought here, Gand. Auzzie will drag my budget way down under. JJ Brannon: Everything... RELM Muse: Now, everybody pay attention. BLR WIZ: time... RELM Muse: What I'm going to have you do is roll -- you enter: //roll BLR WIZ: And the winner is MUSE Gandalara: oy, Ara :) RELM Muse: in the chat line. Let's all try it now: OnlineHost: RELM Muse rolled 2 6-sided dice: 2 5 TAMARAC223: lol BLR OnlineHost: JJ Brannon rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 3 BLR WIZ: Set up......... T83BIRD: LOL BLR OnlineHost: Gandalara rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 5 OnlineHost: Araiused rolled 2 6-sided dice: 4 6 O Flainn: Stan Schmidt plays trumpet for the Danforth CT symphony OnlineHost: Knucles2 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 2 OnlineHost: Guzzer1 has entered the room. OnlineHost: RIKnJAK rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 6 OnlineHost: Shadowjakk rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 3 RELM Muse: Hi Guzzer! Gandalara: Hi Guzzer! T83BIRD: Hi Guz RELM Muse: We're getting ready to roll for the door prize! Araiused: Hi Guzz Shadowjakk: Hi Guz. Guzzer1: here i am RELM Muse: Type: //roll OnlineHost: SpleenVent rolled 2 6-sided dice: 2 1 RELM Muse: into the chatline for practice. JJ Brannon: Does family qualify? Gandalara: (can't believe we're rolling dice in the OWC) RELM Muse: Sure, JJ. ;) RIKnJAK: lolol OnlineHost: RIKnJAK rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 2 OnlineHost: RowrBasil has entered the room. JJ Brannon: LOL Shadowjakk: Hmmm...is the concert going to be a public affair? :) RELM Muse: Hi Rowr! O Flainn: Hey, Guzzer. Seinfeld over? Gandalara: I already have a copy, so I won't roll :) Araiused: Get ready to toss out the dice, Gand :) RIKnJAK: Seinwho? RIKnJAK: :) RELM Muse: Rowr, we're getting ready to roll for the door prize -- type: //roll RELM Muse: into the chat line. :) RowrBasil: what is Seinfeld? BLR WIZ: I could have let you use my dice!!!!!!!!!!! ;) Gandalara: Hi Rowr! RowrBasil: hi Gand Stngnslm: <--- made ship captain and crew of 12 T83BIRD: Not puter savvy enough to roll. Hi Rowr Guzzer1: Yes. Now for the REAL entertainment! RELM Muse: T8, just type: //roll Gandalara: Watch Mike win :) RELM Muse: Guzzer, Rowr, I want to see you practice! OnlineHost: TAMARAC223 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 4 3 OnlineHost: T83BIRD rolled 2 6-sided dice: 2 1 O Flainn: I already have a copy.... RELM Muse: LOL Mike! Gandalara: I hoped so :) OnlineHost: BLR WIZ rolled 2 6-sided dice: 1 4 RowrBasil: (maybe I shoulda read the sign on the door...) Uh, what is going on, pray tell? Shadowjakk: LOL, Mike. RIKnJAK: <---Telling computer to "Play Dead" :) Gandalara: Door prize, Rowr RELM Muse: We're going to roll for the door prize, a copy of FIRESTAR RowrBasil: oh. T83BIRD: Thanks anyway, Muse. O Flainn: hard or paper JJ Brannon: Is this an anti-crap shoot? RELM Muse: The prize will go to the person with the highest score (add the two numbers together).. RELM Muse: adn if there's a tie, we'll have a roll-off. RIKnJAK: So muse when do we start or do we keep rolling til someone wins or just once? Shadowjakk: We're doing a Gommorah Sim, Rowr. Gambling and general licentiousness. RELM Muse: Paper, Mike. Tor sent it. BLR WIZ: Isn't it the lowest score? OnlineHost: Stngnslm rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 2 RowrBasil: or a Sturgeon shoot, as in rejecting 9/10s of X? RELM Muse: ******* READY *********] RELM Muse: Roll@! OnlineHost: Knucles2 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 6 6 OnlineHost: Shadowjakk rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 3 OnlineHost: SpleenVent rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 3 OnlineHost: Araiused rolled 2 6-sided dice: 4 6 OnlineHost: RIKnJAK rolled 2 6-sided dice: 1 4 RowrBasil: Oh..I fear I am too much the puritan for such base vices.. OnlineHost: TAMARAC223 rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 3 RELM Muse: Only six of you rolling? TAMARAC223: try, Rowr Shadowjakk: I have defective virtual dice...mine came up the same both times. :/ RELM Muse: C'mon, the rest of you! RowrBasil: "Depends on the base...and the vices." -Shut up, Groucho. OnlineHost: BLR WIZ rolled 2 6-sided dice: 3 4 OnlineHost: T83BIRD rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 1 Stngnslm: do we get 2nd tries Gandalara: Hey - ut's FREE! ROLL! RELM Muse: Nope, Stng, just the one. AOL's computer is as random as computers get. Gandalara: er ...it's RIKnJAK: lol RowrBasil: pass RELM Muse: Well, in that case, Knuc won with 12!! Shadowjakk: Move my chips onto the pass line, too. Guzzer1: I thought there would be some interesting conversatiuon, not the bar scene from Star Wars Stngnslm: hiding head is shame or a 32 BLR WIZ: Do you mean that you trust AOL to give a true random number? RELM Muse: Knuc, send me your address in e-mail. :) Gandalara: Yay, Knuc!! BLR WIZ: Congrats Kunc Knucles2: Ok Muse.....coolllll O Flainn: Rowr: haven't seen you in the Heinlein boards lately. TAMARAC223: Yay, Knuck!!!! (grumble) Araiused: Hurrah, Knuc! RELM Muse: LOL Guzzer, you came in just as I was giving out the door prize. RowrBasil: Guzz..uh, shall I shoot you from under a table, or cut off a hand? RIKnJAK: Go Knuck Knucles2: Thanx Guys... Shadowjakk: Yup...my bill was always generated in a random fashion. T83BIRD: I just wanted to see if I could even roll. RELM Muse: Now, before we start back into interrogating Mike, here's tomorrow's topic: JJ Brannon: About to say the same, Rowr... RowrBasil: O F..I got tired of the place. RELM Muse: When you go to the stars, how do you want RELM Muse: to get there? A regular Detroit Ford RELM Muse: spaceship? A solar Onassis yacht? A RELM Muse: generational ship with all your friends? RELM Muse: Will you hollow out an asteroid and take RELM Muse: your whole town? Or will you just 'think' RELM Muse: yourself there? Join RELM Astra for a chat RELM Muse: on Modes of Space Travel! RIKnJAK: Well time to pack the puter - Later - hopefully Araiused: Hey, I want a solar yacht. RIKnJAK: Will be at least 3 days Araiused: Later, RIK. RELM Muse: See ya, RIK! Safe move! TAMARAC223: ad astra per Astra Gandalara: Night RIK! Don't sprain anything! TAMARAC223: Nite, RIK Araiused: Will miss you, RIK. Shadowjakk: Later, RIK. Gandalara: LOL TAM T83BIRD: BTW, Muse: I put a new poem on tonight's message board. Nite RIK Stngnslm: nite rik & jak RIKnJAK: :) OnlineHost: RIKnJAK has left the room. RELM Muse: So, Mike, besides FALLING STAR, what are you working on? TAMARAC223: safe move, RIK Araiused: Where did you put 'm, T, can't find your poems. RowrBasil: O F..sometimes you just lose interest... Gandalara: Ara - under chats. Took me forever to find them too Araiused: Mike, Mariesa seems an interesting character :) T83BIRD: On tonight's MB under reply, Ara. Shadowjakk: That's what my banker claims, Rowr. Gandalara: under reply....LOLOL O Flainn: Several shorts. One, "Flame of Iron," is an Irish Pub story (as "From the Corner of the Eye Araiused: T, create folder solely for poems. RELM Muse: LOL Shadow Araiused: Shall I do it for ya, T? OnlineHost: XGreyFox has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi XGrey! Shadowjakk: Hi XGrey. RELM Muse: Author! Author! RELM Muse: Look who's here! RELM Muse: Michael Flynn's the RELM Muse: O*W*C's cheer! Gandalara: Hi XGrey! JJ Brannon: Well, duty calls...I must enforce "lights out" for my minion. Night all. Araiused: Hi Xgry RELM Muse: Night, JJ! Gandalara: Night JJ! XGreyFox: Hi Folks::Waves:: T83BIRD: Ara, yes. I didn't know how. JJ Brannon: Talk at you later , Michael... O Flainn: Stan Schmidt has it. Now, if only he considers necrography a science... Araiused: Night, JJ. TAMARAC223: Nite, JJ T83BIRD: Nite JJ OnlineHost: JJ Brannon has left the room. RELM Muse: Um, writings of the dead? OnlineHost: Techyo has entered the room. RELM Muse: Doesn't Elron have the market on that? O Flainn: oops. necrology. RELM Muse: Hi Tech! BLR WIZ: Hi Tech RELM Muse: Welcome to O*W*C! O Flainn/Michael Flynn RELM Muse: is our special guest tonight! Join in the chat! Araiused: Hiya Tec. TAMARAC223: necrography? hmmmm Gandalara: Hi Tech! T83BIRD: Hi Tech Stngnslm: hi greyfox and rowr and guzzer1 and tech TAMARAC223: Hi, Tech RowrBasil: necropgraphy...a flow chart of the Deadheads? Techyo: Hi ALL! Shadowjakk: Nah...Elron does Necroscription. RELM Muse: LOL Gandalara: Mike - anything about Irish fandom in the story? XGreyFox: Nope, but up to page 31 of my novel::and 100 pages is not all that far in the future:: TAMARAC223: Hi, XGrey T83BIRD: HI XG XGreyFox: Hi Tamara. XGreyFox: and T8 Shadowjakk: Or rather Exnecroscription. O Flainn: It's a quasi-imaginary pub. Strange things happen there. Knucles2: Hi all who snuck in while I wasn't looking.... Araiused: O*W*C pub :) RELM Muse: LOL RowrBasil: O Flainn,good..the drinks at Callahans were getting a little pricy.. Gandalara: Sorry. Just finished White's book on Irish fandom :) XGreyFox: So, wheres this famous writer at? O Flainn: Don't know. RELM Muse: He's using the Irish version of his name: O Flainn. ;) Araiused: Right at the bar, XGrey. XGreyFox: ::looks at Flainn oddly:: Should have gone for Mac Flainn. RELM Muse: Mike, you're a statistician -- what kind of statistics do you work with? BLR WIZ: LOL Mike. XGreyFox: ::grins:: T83BIRD: Thanks for being helpful, Ara. Araiused: You're very welcome, T! O Flainn: I've got a couple more unfinished shorts. One where Kipling visits Twain at Quarry Farm O Flainn: to discuss UFOs RowrBasil: Mike..I recall you did a 2-parter on how psychohistory might work... RowrBasil: Analog, wasnt it? RELM Muse: So, do they believe in little green men? Shadowjakk: I used to go to Irish pubs, but I got all Guiness stout. O Flainn: Muse: Statistics in quality control work. Rowr: Yes, a couple years back. XGreyFox: <--- is only published on contest MB's right now, looks rahter embarrased:: Knucles2: oy T83BIRD: Sometimes I think UFOs should be NEFO's. Non-existent flying objects. Araiused: LOL, T. TAMARAC223: LOL T T83BIRD: Thanks. RowrBasil: T83...inclined to agree, but wouldn't mind being mistaken.. T83BIRD: Same here, Rowr. XGreyFox: How about MIFO O Flainn: There actually was a UFO craze in 1898. I moved it to 95 for the story. Stngnslm: lShadow it must have not been all lot of it or you would not have remembered XGreyFox: Mis Identified Flying Objects. RowrBasil: Ah, the airship sightings.. TAMARAC223: swamp gas Shadowjakk: 'Twas a pun, Stn. Read "Guiness'd out" XGreyFox: Cow farts. Stngnslm: weather balloons ? RELM Muse: Fairies! RowrBasil: Bovine exhaust fumes, please...discretion, discretion. Stngnslm: Lol Sadow TAMARAC223: inversion layer reflections BLR WIZ: If you want Irish, a nephew was born on St. Pattys day, and has an aprop. name. RELM Muse: The planet Mars Stngnslm: try venus XGreyFox: Jet powered bovines, the only way to fly. Knucles2: Bad Bourbon RELM Muse: Too hot there for me, Stng. XGreyFox: He was named patty? TAMARAC223: lol BLR WIZ: Sean Pattrick Stngnslm: I hear tell Muse T83BIRD: Popular Mechanics said an early hi-altitude spy balloon w'Japanese scientists crashed at Ros O Flainn: I've also started work on a medieval novel. T83BIRD: well. Guzzer1: Too much for me. See ya Mike Araiused: Nite, Guzz. Shadowjakk: AH or striaght-up historical fiction...or...fantasy? T83BIRD: Nite Guz TAMARAC223: Nite, Guzz RowrBasil: It was an experimental re-entryt vehicle, accrding to the article as I recall.. O Flainn: Guzzer: stay in touch, bro Araiused: Medieval SF? RELM Muse: Night, Guzzer! Gandalara: Night Guzz! Guzzer1: Nite all RowrBasil: Actually Mogul seems plausible enough. Araiused: DaVinci could have written a medieval SF :) OnlineHost: Guzzer1 has left the room. T83BIRD: Rowr: Version I read said it was precursor of U-2. BLR WIZ: Is it anything like the High Crusade by Poul Anderson? XGreyFox: Basiclly, when the cow dropped from the sky. RELM Muse: Mike, "Mammy Morgan..." had a strong brother relationship in it -- RowrBasil: (something or other///) RELM Muse: did you base that on your own life? O Flainn: Historical, with maybe some fantasy. It involves the Clan O Flainn in 1224. RowrBasil: Mike...no kin to that rascal Errol, I suppose.. Shadowjakk: Pre-British Irish fiction...the best kind. O Flainn: Muse: Yes. I had a brother who died when we were in high school. RELM Muse: Ah, I'm sorry to hear that. BLR WIZ: Mike, do you ever attend the Highland Games? XGreyFox: ::speeking of which, I enjoy Llywellen's works, expectly Lion of Ireland. Anyone read XGreyFox: that one? Araiused: Sorry to hear that, Mike. RELM Muse: But I suppose that's one of the reasons the story has such depth. Shadowjakk: Years ago, XG. Stngnslm: simpathys are offerd O F Gandalara: SOrry, Mike Stngnslm: lost a sister O Flainn: Dennis and I used to write SF together when we were 10 or so. We invented Shared World idea RowrBasil: sorry to hear that BLR WIZ: My condolences, Mike. Araiused: Sorry, Stng :'( O Flainn: (High school was a long time ago for me.) Stngnslm: it happend Arai T83BIRD: Condolences from one who has had no siblings to lose. RELM Muse: Ah, so you named your son after him? RowrBasil: O F..scary when I realize that 1968 was THIRTY years ago.. XGreyFox: ::and anyone have a review on the book Red Branch? Havn't read it yet:: Stngnslm: we go on Shadowjakk: Yeah...isn't it, Rowr? O Flainn: Yes. My son is Dennis Michael, son of Michael Francis, son of Joseph Francis, Araiused: Mainstream novel, XGrey? RowrBasil: (contemplating 60s re-enactment society like the Civl War buffs...) Shadowjakk: The very thought that movies are playing the nostalgia O Flainn: son of Francis Thomas, son of Daniel Joseph, son of John Thomas, Shadowjakk: theme for the 70s lately is Shadowjakk: frightening enough. O Flainn: son of Martin Flynn of Loughrea. XGreyFox: it was another Llywellen novel. RowrBasil: Hey..I liked a lot of the 70s... RELM Muse: LOL Rowr! Knucles2: Rowr, some of that would be highly illegal RELM Muse: So a good name. ;) RowrBasil: Heck, I miss the 80s.. T83BIRD: It's even scarier, Shadow, since I lived through all of it. Gandalara: oh ick. My ex was Joseph Francis. XGreyFox: <> Araiused: Ack, Gand. RELM Muse: Well, not Flynn, right, Gand? Shadowjakk: So did I...we all dressed like the Osmonds and hade hair Shadowjakk: like Gabe Kaplan, but we had fun, dammit. Gandalara: LOL RowrBasil: Knuc..illegal? a mere technicality.. Techyo: I wish I remembered the 70s. Gandalara: LOL RELM Muse: LOL Tech O Flainn: Joseph Francis Flynn is 70+ veteran of Iwo Jima. Araiused: When we're in the new millennium, we miss the 90s for sure :) Techyo: I hear I had fun. TAMARAC223: lol Tech RowrBasil: If you did, you didnt do it right.. Araiused: LOL, Tech. Knucles2: lol......could always sub oregano T83BIRD: My memories go back to 1933. RELM Muse: Mike, you told us you've been compared a lot to Allen Steele, I assume for.. T83BIRD: I was three then. Gandalara: Sorry Mike. I just have something against the name, not the man :) Araiused: Memory like a steel trap, T. RELM Muse: the blue-collar spaceguys theme. How did you come to write about them? Stngnslm: <-- mine start in 49 O Flainn: Muse: A space station had to be built. Someone had to build it. White collar guys seemed O Flainn: unlikely Knucles2: <-----Eisenhauwer baby Techyo: LOL Flainn! Shadowjakk: NASA has done its best to trash the blue-collar spaceman Shadowjakk: archetype of the golden age. I'm glad to see someone Shadowjakk: revive it. Knucles2: or a near facsimily T83BIRD: Agreed, O F. We need habitats in space, too, I think. O Flainn: One day I was writing and Flaco Mercado showed up on the screen. RowrBasil: NASA- keeping space free of the riffraff OnlineHost: XGreyFox has left the room. OnlineHost: The13thDr has entered the room. Stngnslm: Shadow they are going to send another teacher into the great unknown Techyo: So no matter the degree whoever builds it will be a working person? Araiused: Hiya Dr! Knucles2: Hey Doc Shadowjakk: In space, you can et your nose higher than the hoi-polloi, Rowr. Stngnslm: she is from Idaho T83BIRD: Hi Dr Gandalara: Hi Dr! TAMARAC223: gotta let em in sometime Rowr, or doctoral astronauts will be building Shadowjakk: Hi Dr. RowrBasil: We could put our critics up there... The13thDr: hullo all TAMARAC223: Hi, Dr RELM Muse: Hi Dr! RELM Muse: Author chat! RELM Muse: Welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe! RELM Muse: We're talking with SF author Michael Flynn! Stngnslm: hi dr although i've only been to 12 Techyo: Rowr I thought we are our favorite critics? The13thDr: Hullo Mister Flynn Shadowjakk: How would they determine when their thumbs were pointed "up", Rowr? RowrBasil: "I didn't volunteer! I object!-" "Shut up, Proxmire." RELM Muse: You know, I typed for Donald Goldsmith, the Chief Engineer for Alpha, .. Gandalara: LOL Rowr Techyo: TAMARAC223: LOL O Flainn: hi, dr RELM Muse: and when I mentioned Allen's blue-collar spacemen, he said he thought.. RowrBasil: "We're running experiments on low grav and altzheimers.." RELM Muse: they'd have engineers up there for a while at first, but he did hope it would change. Shadowjakk: "Two thumbs toward the azimuth" OnlineHost: GRENDALS1 has entered the room. Techyo: Have to be some rather hands on Engineers wouldn't it? Araiused: brb RELM Muse: Hi GREN! RELM Muse: Welcome! Meet O Flainn, aka RELM Muse: Michael Flynn, science fiction author! RELM Muse: Join the O*W*C for guest chat! T83BIRD: Hi Gren TAMARAC223: Hi, Gren Stngnslm: Rowr i wish you well RowrBasil: "In space nobody can hear you sneer." Stngnslm: hi gren Gandalara: Mike - when you read, which authors do you like? RELM Muse: LOL O Flainn: hi, gred Gandalara: Hi Gren! O Flainn: gren Knucles2: Hi Gren The13thDr: hullo Gren GRENDALS1: hi Y'all RowrBasil: Stngs..why> am I sick? nobody tells me nuttin.. Shadowjakk: Especially if you make 'em do it EVA sans-suit, Rowr. Gandalara: Hard SF? Comic? Techno? GRENDALS1: Nice ti meet ya Michael! T83BIRD: Do you like Anne McCaffrey? Araiused: bak Stngnslm: Docs are like that Rowr O Flainn: The construction workers call themselves "otters" and newcomers "bunnies." Zero-g is "ziggy Knucles2: <-----dragon fan The13thDr: I write stories I want to read. Do you agree, Michael Techyo: ROFL Ziggy Stardust. Stngnslm: <--- likes dragons they can be tasty Shadowjakk: For their means of locomotion? Gandalara: LOL Tech O Flainn: Dunno. 13th. Haven't read your stories. I presume you like to read them, though... GRENDALS1: lol RowrBasil: mechanical robot probes...'spiders from mars??" Gandalara: oy... Araiused: Watch out for their hot breath, Stng. The13thDr: I meant, do you write stories that you'd want to read? RELM Muse: Mike, in the intro to THE FOREST OF TIME & OTHER STORIES... RELM Muse: you say you write SF because it's important. Why is it important? Stngnslm: <-- knows how to hold ones breath T83BIRD: I was asking Michael about Anne McCaffrey. Stngnslm: Arai we all face many dragons in our life OnlineHost: Sancho100 has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Sancho! RELM Muse: Welcome! We have the 1991 Compton RELM Muse: Crook winner with us: Michael Flynn! RELM Muse: Chat about his books and writing with RELM Muse: the Other*Worlds*Cafe! T83BIRD: Hi Sancho Gandalara: Hi Sancho! The13thDr: :::walks over to the bar for a cuppa, laying katana on bar counter... Hi Sancho TAMARAC223: Hi, Sancho Sancho100: HI, HANGEERS ON Knucles2: Hi Sancho Araiused: I think, Dr., you meant that would a writer write for himself or for the public? OnlineHost: Sancho100 has left the room. OnlineHost: Sancho100 has entered the room. Stngnslm: it is knowing witch one to pay attention to Araiused: Hi San Sancho100: OOps The13thDr: Exactly, Ara RELM Muse: LOL Sancho! Caught in the revolving door? O Flainn: 13th: :-) Yes. I suppose if I were paid Big Bucks I'd write a story to order and not care; O Flainn: but for now, I write stories I like to read. Sancho100: 'scalled fumble finger Stngnslm: back shortly OnlineHost: RowrBasil has left the room. Gandalara: SO what authors do you read in your spare(?) time, Mike? T83BIRD: later Stng Knucles2: Gotta go guys....Thanx for the chance at the dice....I'll look for Knucles2: you tomorrow nite...Nite Mike! Can't wait to read the book.... O Flainn: Poul Anderson. Harry Turtledove. Nancy Kress. Charles Sheffield. Jerry Pournelle. T83BIRD: Nite Kn Gandalara: Night Knuc! RELM Muse: Night, Knuc! O Flainn: night. TAMARAC223: Night, Knuck The13thDr: nite kn Gandalara: Cool. Kress :) BLR WIZ: Some good ones there Mike. OnlineHost: Knucles2 has left the room. O Flainn: Steve Stirling's latest. T83BIRD: Very good ones. Shadowjakk: That's a pretty wide range of styles, Mike. GRENDALS1: << was noticing thta Techyo: Great authors. O Flainn: Variety matters. T83BIRD: Do you write both hard SF and social SF then? RELM Muse: ISLAND IN THE SEA OF TIME? He's got the second done, and a nibble for TV. BLR WIZ: What is your fav. movie? Mike OnlineHost: ChrisEason has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Chris! RELM Muse: Welcome! You've found the RELM Muse: Other*Worlds*Cafe and we have SF RELM Muse: author Michael Flynn joining us for chat! The13thDr: hi chris RELM Muse: Say Hi to O Flainn! T83BIRD: Hi Chris TAMARAC223: Hi, Chris! ChrisEason: Hello all! :{D Stngnslm: back O Flainn: Bird: I think so. I sometimes say I write "high viscosity SF" Shadowjakk: That's what I told my ex-wife, Mike. Sancho100: Sorry to drop in so late but let me ask: Isn't it a little delicate tto comment on another's Sancho100: work? Shadowjakk: Variety matters. :) T83BIRD: LOL Michael. ChrisEason: Hiya, O Flainn! :{D Stngnslm: waving to all new arrivals O Flainn: Greetings O Flainn: Lessee. Favorite movie? In genre? RELM Muse: Sancho, he's just telling us who some of his favorite authors are. :) BLR WIZ: genre and other? O Flainn: CHARLY is still the only SF movie to win an Oscar for =acting= Araiused: BAK BTW Araiused: ::waving to newcomers:: T83BIRD: A good one, Michael. BLR WIZ: Good one..... TAMARAC223: Blurring out here. G'night. Thanks, Muse. Thanks for coming, Mike, I enjoyed meeting you. BLR WIZ: Bye Tam RELM Muse: Night, TAM! T83BIRD: Nite TAM Gandalara: Night TAM! ChrisEason: Nighters, TAM! :{D Shadowjakk: Night, TAM. OnlineHost: TAMARAC223 has left the room. Sancho100: Hello Arai, bye Tam Gandalara: Oops. Hi Chris! Araiused: Nite, tAM OnlineHost: DavinDaire has entered the room. RELM Muse: Hi Davin! RELM Muse: Author! Author! Stngnslm: nite tam RELM Muse: Look who's here! RELM Muse: Michael Flynn's the Araiused: Hi Davin T83BIRD: That's why I say, Hi, all, Gand. RELM Muse: O*W*C's cheer! T83BIRD: Hi Davin BLR WIZ: Mike, do you have a fav. movie to watch if you are feeling down? DavinDaire: Hi, all. O Flainn: Some other good movies, not genre. BARCELONA. Depardeu's CYRANO. Araiused: I don't know if someone has already asked this, but how do Araiused: you organize your writing routine, Mike? Stngnslm: Muse offers O F a squid coctail and served with reverance Araiused: LOL, Stn BLR WIZ: LOL T83BIRD: LOL RELM Muse: LOL Araiused: Depardieu's CYRANO is good especially in French. Araiused: The dialogue in French is all in rhyming verse. Gandalara: Liked Depardieu's Green Card :) Shadowjakk: A good man is Gerard to find. O Flainn: Wiz: not really. ZULU, maybe. I sort of like historical recreations. WATERLOO with RELM Muse: LOL Shadow O Flainn: Steiger and Plummer. Shadowjakk: Steiger is king. RELM Muse: Mike, in the intro to THE FOREST OF TIME & OTHER STORIES,... BLR WIZ: Just wondering, Mike.. Thanks. Sancho100: Mike have you seen Ferrer's Cyrano? One of the aALL TIME GREAT movies.How's Depardieu comp? RELM Muse: you say that you write SF because it's important. Why is it important? Shadowjakk: Steiger defined "range" O Flainn: Arai: Writing routine: after work, weekends, in hotel rooms on the road. The13thDr: soundsl like me Araiused: Sounds like me too! GRENDALS1: Gota Run.. Later Y'all Goodnighters Stngnslm: Muse with Scifi the authors can explore relationships that are other wise tabo T83BIRD: Nite Gren Gandalara: Night GREN! Araiused: See ya, GREN O Flainn: Muse: I forget. Wait. It'll come back to me. Stngnslm: nite Gren Gandalara: LOL The13thDr: bye gren ChrisEason: Night, GREN! :{D RELM Muse: Night, GREN! RELM Muse: LOL Mike! OnlineHost: GRENDALS1 has left the room. BLR WIZ: LOL Shadowjakk: LOL, Mike. OnlineHost: Dayahla has entered the room. T83BIRD: LOL too Araiused: Hiya Day! O Flainn: Okay. Because the science outlook is important. The idea that the universe is knowable RELM Muse: Hi Day! Dayahla: Hello, All! BLR WIZ: Hi M ' Lady. RELM Muse: Welcome to O*W*C! O Flainn/Michael Flynn RELM Muse: is our special guest tonight! Join in the chat! Gandalara: Hi Day! T83BIRD: Hi Day The13thDr: Hey Day!!!! O Flainn: and that facts trump theories. BLR WIZ: Mike, what do you think of the current space program????? T83BIRD: I should say, Hi Lady Day. RELM Muse: So SF gives us an idea into how science works? Araiused: Good question, BLR. O Flainn: Wiz: we have one? Dayahla: {{Dr}}, {{BLR}}, {{tech}}, {{Bird, Spleen}} The13thDr: LOL Mike Shadowjakk: Hi Day. Gandalara: LOL Mike BLR WIZ: LOL, Yes Mike, limited as it is... :( Dayahla: Hi, Shadow..Muse, AraGand, OF, Chris, Stng, Dav, Sancho Sancho100: Day!! Stngnslm: hi Day Gandalara: We're fused, Ara :) Dayahla: {{stng}} Araiused: About to say that, Gand :) Dayahla: Muse...some disregard the science, as a backdrop Araiused: When did we become Siamese? O Flainn: Muse: in a way. I don't mean didactically, like Gernsback thought; but in the outlook. Gandalara: :::looking around for Yul :::: The13thDr: <--- teaches as i tell a story Araiused: LOLOL. Shadowjakk: I dunno...I think of science as a "bridge" to the future, and the bid is "no trump". Dayahla: lolol BLR WIZ: LOL Araiused: The best way to teach, Dr. T83BIRD: LOLOL Shadow RELM Muse: LOL O Flainn: :-) T83BIRD: Ara's right. The13thDr: thanks Ara Stngnslm: [[day]] Shadowjakk: makes me whist-ful, sometimes. O Flainn: A Jakk of all trades Dayahla: LOL The13thDr: LOL Gandalara: Oy! T83BIRD: LOL Michael Araiused: Gee, Shadow, Mike has punned you. RELM Muse: LOL BLR WIZ: Ouch.. Leno is asking on the street how many planets in our solar system.. Getting Shadowjakk: See...deny it not sir. Thou punst. ChrisEason: LOL! RELM Muse: No, that's Steve Stirling's screenname.... BLR WIZ: answers from 20 to 100.... Shadowjakk: Hi Chris. Araiused: We have 100 planets? The13thDr: you're kidding, right wiz? O Flainn: Well, if you include planetoids and moons.... Araiused: Who are our neighbours? T83BIRD: BLR, they don't know the constellations, either. BLR WIZ: No Dr... I wish I was. BLR WIZ: Yes T8..... The13thDr: ow gawd Araiused: Ask them how many suns we have :) BLR WIZ: LOL Gandalara: Leno? Check the MB's for a Leno alert :) Stngnslm: Lol Arai Gandalara: Ara - depends on which man they ask :) Gandalara: thwapping self BLR WIZ: Talk about the dumbing down of society.. Some of these are college grads... O Flainn: Tomorrow, I have to teach analysis of means for three factor experiments. I may be logging Stngnslm: Gand it depends on what they are on O Flainn: off shortly Araiused: Gand does that a lot lately, thwap-happy. T83BIRD: They don't know whether the sun or the moon is bigger. RELM Muse: The chat's done in seven minutes anyway, Mike! Shadowjakk: Just one sun, which will go Gol eventually, Ara. RELM Muse: Thanks so much for coming! We really enjoyed it! RELM Muse: And many thanks to Tor for the door prize! Shadowjakk: Right now it's "proto-Gol" Araiused: Yaay, Mike, we truly did! BLR WIZ: Is the moon bigger than the sun. Answer "This is a trick question?" Gandalara: Time for applause? RELM Muse: Sure, Gand! We can applaud for seven minutes. Shadowjakk: Soon we'll be wishing for the return of the Proto-Gol Sun. Techyo: Mike THANKS! Very interesting! Gandalara: ::::::Applauds madly::::::::: BLR WIZ: Thanks for putting up with us.... Mike... Gandalara: Ow OnlineHost: Leri has entered the room. Shadowjakk: Thanks, Mike! Stngnslm: enjoyed your presence O F hope to see you here again Gandalara: Hi Leri RELM Muse: Hi Leri! T83BIRD: LOL Michael. Thanks much. Golden Squid Award. The13thDr: gave the prize away"? RELM Muse: Author chat! RELM Muse: Welcome to the Other*Worlds*Cafe! RELM Muse: We're talking with SF author Michael Flynn! Araiused: Hi Ler! The13thDr: hi leri O Flainn: In today's class, the students had to put up with a lot of stuff T83BIRD: Hi Leri Stngnslm: hi Leri O Flainn: Literally Leri: Especially your guest Dayahla: Lol RELM Muse: Yes, Dr, before you came in. :) Shadowjakk: LOL O Flainn: A roto-rooter fractured a pipe in the ceiling. Gandalara: laughing hysterically.... RELM Muse: Ack OnlineHost: Kakaze has entered the room. The13thDr: q;-( bummer Kakaze: hi all Araiused: Hiya Kak! Leri: TiMorgan wanted to talk to Flynn - his favoraite author - but he is currently Stngnslm: uh ohh RELM Muse: Hi Kak! Dayahla: Cak! O Flainn: And it rained down through the tiles Leri: on a plane... BLR WIZ: Hi Kak RELM Muse: Welcome! Meet O Flainn, aka RELM Muse: Michael Flynn, science fiction author! Gandalara: oh sorry, not at you :) T83BIRD: Hi Kak RELM Muse: Join the O*W*C for guest chat! Gandalara: Hi Kak! The13thDr: hey kak Dayahla: Oooh...sounds like you were all wet...tee hee RELM Muse: Leri, he'll have to read the log. And we'll have Mike back when FALLING STAR... Kakaze: ara!!!! muse!!! dae!!! wiz!!! t!!! gand!!! professor!!! RELM Muse: is published. :) BLR WIZ: Yes Mike, water always follows the path of leist resistence. Kakaze: i miss anyone? Leri: Thanks...Muse O Flainn: Stuff Happens Araiused: You miss the VIP, Kak. Kakaze: o flainn? Leri: LOL Stngnslm: <-- has firestar RELM Muse: Yep, Kak, that's his screenname. O Flainn: O Flainn is a vip? Kakaze: oh Shadowjakk: Whan it stops happening, you're dead. Kakaze: didnt see RELM Muse: LOL Kakaze: <--- isnt feeling well Leri: Thanks Shadow RELM Muse: Sure, all our author guests are VIPs! BLR WIZ: Mike, make them open the ceiling up to dry it out before it starts to mildew in there. Kakaze: hello vip! Araiused: Very VIPpy Leri: Just what we all needed a pshych course...: )\ Stngnslm: Kak then get some bed rest Kakaze: i just did, thats why im late The13thDr: i guess then i'm a VIP then Kakaze: im still disoriented Sancho100: >Stuff Happens< but it doesn't flow up hill Araiused: A disoriented VIP. RELM Muse: What's the Doris Day/Rock Hudson movie about VIP? Stngnslm: Kak the crual back into the sack Kakaze: doris day, and rock hudson? i just love pillow talk Kakaze: rephrase please, stng Stngnslm: and dring plenty of fluids RELM Muse: Wrong one, I think this is LOVER COME HOME, but I'm not sure. T83BIRD: I'll settle for being just a person. Jerry Seinfeld just entered Leno's show. Stngnslm: other wise known as a bed Kakaze: ugh, seinfeld Gandalara: :::still applauding Mike:::::: RELM Muse: Well folks, you've been great chatters tonight, and Mike has been a great guest! The13thDr: Yay Mike RELM Muse: My time is up, but feel free to stay and chat! Kakaze: sorry i missed Araiused: ::applauding Gand for applaudign:: Techyo: Thanks Mike! And Muse ! T83BIRD: LOLOL both Mike and Muse. Gandalara: Thanks, Mike! ChrisEason: Night, Muse. Nice meeting you, Mike! :{D O Flainn: bowing politedly (and bemusedly) to applause. Araiused: Thanks Muse and Mike! Shadowjakk: Night, all! Thanks, Mike! Kakaze: anyone wanna give me a synapsis of what i missed? BLR WIZ: So what, I am waiting for From the EArth To the Moon.. RELM Muse: If you have any problems, use keyword: NOTIFY AOL! OnlineHost: Shadowjakk has left the room. Stngnslm: !!!!! thanks for showing up Mike BLR WIZ: Thanks Mike, and MUSE RELM Muse: Read the log, Kak. :) Gandalara: A good chat, Kak :) Araiused: Read the log, Kak. Kakaze: ew! RELM Muse: Have a good night! Leri: Thanks Mike - we'll look for you again... Kakaze: i hate reading the logs RELM Muse: See y'all tomorrow!