Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 3] 1/31/2003 09:57 PM OnlineHost: To find more book chats and message boards check out Keyword:TABK and Keyword: Sci-Fi. HOST RL Astra: The Other*Worlds*Cafe is AOL's oldest and largest science fiction HOST RL Astra: discussion group! We have nightly chats in this room from 10 PM to HOST RL Astra: 12 AM ET. Don't forget to check out our boards, library and web HOST RL Astra: links. HOST RL Astra: . HOST RL Astra: *** The opinions expressed in this chat do not necessarily represent HOST RL Astra: those of the Other *Worlds* Cafe or America Online. *** OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has entered the room. Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 4] 1/31/2003 10:00 PM HOST RL Astra: Hi Ldsdwd! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay, folks, I'm going to take moderation off so we can thank Bob for joining NINLILA: us tonight. Ldsdwd: Hi Astra! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay, folks, I'm going to take moderation off so we can thank Bob for joining HOST RL Astra: Well, shoot. My IM didn't work :/ NINLILA: us tonight. NINLILA: JaniceMars: And bob, you're opped so you can talk HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Welcome to Cybling Bob! NINLILA: zillabob: Yo, I am here. Thanks! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Welcome to Cybling Bob! NINLILA: zillabob: Yo, I am here. Thanks! NINLILA: Deva: YAY! NINLILA: JaniceMars: First off...a message from Astra over in the OWC. She says... tell him NINLILA: 'Coooo-ooool!!!' NINLILA: zillabob: Nah...ya gotta go COOOOOOOOOOOOOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOST RL Astra: LOLOL NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOLOLOLOL. NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'm assuming that's something you're known for at conventions. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: You literally give birth to the word in your mouth NINLILA: zillabob: Among other stuff, Godzilla. Hair...oh, and artwork! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Sounds good. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay...I have the first question of the evening and it's a doozy... Ldsdwd: Sorry Astra but I'm not good at this. See you the next time. Night! NINLILA: JaniceMars: k-vaguely: I don't know if it's politic, but -- I'm curious how much he gets NINLILA: for a cover on mag of sf&f... also who some of NINLILA: his favorite artists are... what his favorite question is... : NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL. HOST RL Astra: Later, Lds :-) OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has left the room. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: --- 3 NINLILA: JaniceMars: And bob, you're opped so you can talk NINLILA: JaniceMars: Welcome to Cybling Bob! NINLILA: zillabob: Yo, I am here. Thanks! NINLILA: Deva: YAY! NINLILA: JaniceMars: First off...a message from Astra over in the OWC. She says... tell him NINLILA: 'Coooo-ooool!!!' NINLILA: zillabob: Nah...ya gotta go COOOOOOOOOOOOOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOLOLOLOL. NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'm assuming that's something you're known for at conventions. NINLILA: zillabob: You literally give birth to the word in your mouth NINLILA: zillabob: Among other stuff, Godzilla. Hair...oh, and artwork! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Sounds good. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay...I have the first question of the evening and it's a doozy... NINLILA: JaniceMars: k-vaguely: I don't know if it's politic, but -- I'm curious how much he gets NINLILA: for a cover on mag of sf&f... also who some of NINLILA: his favorite artists are... what his favorite question is... : NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL. NINLILA: zillabob: Okay. It depends. Magazines pay lots less than bookcovers do, by contrast NINLILA: publishers vary too. I work for 'large' publishers NINLILA: who pay more but they tend to 'art direct' more and, I then I work for small ones who NINLILA: pay less but have less restrictions. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: That's understandable. They figure they get what they pay for and extra. NINLILA: zillabob: Fantasy and Science Fiction pays like $700 for a cover. So does Hayawkawa SF in NINLILA: Japan. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: Golden Gryphon Press pays $1500 for a bookcover but they just say 'Do what you NINLILA: want'. Tor Books pays lots more, but NINLILA: sometimes they have some art directing. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: zillabob: Funny, I HAVE been doing a cover a WEEK. Five paintings in oh...um four weeks. NINLILA: And Feb is looking tight too. I'm making up NINLILA: for a bad last year $$$ wise. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Yikes! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Bob...referring back to that first question... NINLILA: JaniceMars: do you have certain artists you admire? NINLILA: zillabob: Well, everyone wants their art for catalogs. NINLILA: zillabob: Yes. Got alnight? NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL...do you have a short list NINLILA: JaniceMars: And bob, you're opped so you can talk NINLILA: JaniceMars: Welcome to Cybling Bob! NINLILA: zillabob: Yo, I am here. Thanks! NINLILA: Deva: YAY! NINLILA: JaniceMars: First off...a message from Astra over in the OWC. She says... tell him NINLILA: 'Coooo-ooool!!!' NINLILA: zillabob: Nah...ya gotta go COOOOOOOOOOOOOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOLOLOLOL. NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'm assuming that's something you're known for at conventions. NINLILA: zillabob: You literally give birth to the word in your mouth NINLILA: zillabob: Among other stuff, Godzilla. Hair...oh, and artwork! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Sounds good. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay...I have the first question of the evening and it's a doozy... NINLILA: JaniceMars: k-vaguely: I don't know if it's politic, but -- I'm curious how much he gets NINLILA: for a cover on mag of sf&f... also who some of NINLILA: his favorite artists are... what his favorite question is... : NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL. NINLILA: zillabob: Okay. It depends. Magazines pay lots less than bookcovers do, by contrast NINLILA: publishers vary too. I work for 'large' publishers NINLILA: who pay more but they tend to 'art direct' more and, I then I work for small ones who NINLILA: pay less but have less restrictions. NINLILA: JaniceMars: That's understandable. They figure they get what they pay for and extra. NINLILA: zillabob: Fantasy and Science Fiction pays like $700 for a cover. So does Hayawkawa SF in NINLILA: Japan. NINLILA: JaniceMars: That's very nice Bob, but heck. You'd have to pump out a cover a week to NINLILA: eat. NINLILA: zillabob: Golden Gryphon Press pays $1500 for a bookcover but they just say 'Do what you NINLILA: want'. Tor Books pays lots more, but NINLILA: sometimes they have some art directing. NINLILA: zillabob: Funny, I HAVE been doing a cover a WEEK. Five paintings in oh...um four weeks. NINLILA: And Feb is looking tight too. I'm making up NINLILA: for a bad last year $$$ wise. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Yikes! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Bob...referring back to that first question... NINLILA: JaniceMars: do you have certain artists you admire? NINLILA: zillabob: Well, everyone wants their art for catalogs. NINLILA: zillabob: Yes. Got alnight? NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL...do you have a short list NINLILA: JaniceMars: ? NINLILA: zillabob: The masters: JMW Turner, Gustave Moreau, Winslow Homer..Jean Baptiste Corot.. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: And I think we'll hold... what is your favorite question for the end of the NINLILA: chat. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Bob... NINLILA: zillabob: In SF I like Yoshitaka Amano's work, Bill Stout...a few more. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Astra: Who owns the painting after they buy it for a cover? Can you still NINLILA: sell it to a private buyer? If they own it, what do NINLILA: they do with it after the cover? NINLILA: zillabob: Dunno NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: --- 3 NINLILA: zillabob: Oh, the artists OWNS the cover. Always. Unless those rights are specifically NINLILA: bought which means more $$$. And yes I can NINLILA: sell it to anyone. And, they have the right to display it in their home but the artist NINLILA: still has the repro rights on it. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: That's interesting. So artists keep a great deal of their rights on their NINLILA: work in the SF/Fantasy/Horror genres. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay... I have another long question here that I'm going to break up into NINLILA: parts. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Softpaw: .I would like to know a few things...one what is his favorite NINLILA: medium to work with. NINLILA: zillabob: Most always. Unless it is work for hire which is just a bad clause. It makes NINLILA: you an employee but you don;t get any benefits. NINLILA: zillabob: My favorite medium? Pencil and paper. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Southpaw: when did he get started? NINLILA: zillabob: SOmetimes. SOmetimes it goes as far as 60% away. NINLILA: zillabob: Well, I was born, and then at some point I got chalk in my hands...is that what NINLILA: you mean? NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL, I think southpaw might be more interested.... NINLILA: JaniceMars: in what was your first professional sale and how long did it take for you to NINLILA: make that sale. NINLILA: JaniceMars: After you decided to become a professional artist. NINLILA: zillabob: I started with BAen Books. Still work for him today. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 3] 1/31/2003 10:15 PM NINLILA: JaniceMars: Cool. NINLILA: zillabob: Yeah, he's a small operation but he's there and I like his books. ANd he pays NINLILA: like that. NINLILA: --- 1 OnlineHost: T83BIRD has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. NINLILA: --- 2 HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! HOST RL Astra: Hiya T :-) NINLILA: JaniceMars: That's good. How long did you have the 'beat the pavement' before you made NINLILA: your first cover sale, Bob? NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: Baen came to me. But I had to walk the streets for alot of years. In all HOST RL Astra: You can chat, T. He can't see us :-) NINLILA: weathersviolins please. It was tough. NINLILA: JaniceMars: It's not a job guidance counselors usually put on the top of the list. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Bob...I'm going to save Softpaw's 3rd question for a bit... I have one here NINLILA: that relates to publishing. NINLILA: JaniceMars: k-vaguely: how would a small-press magazine or book go about catching his NINLILA: eye? : NINLILA: zillabob: This was in l984. No, it isn't. In High School they said I was insane to go NINLILA: into art. But I decided this at 9. T83BIRD: Astra, I'm not thorougly familiar with his work, so that I'll lurk mostly. NINLILA: --- 1 HOST RL Marz: Just a reminder that Bob's website is http://www.bobeggleton.com NINLILA: --- 2 HOST RL Astra: www.bobeggleton.com T. He does a LOT of magazine covers and book covers. HOST RL Marz: You're familiar with is work...I'll betcha. NINLILA: zillabob: In what sense? Would I do something for it? NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: Xero: Now I have two questions. First, how does he get the art to the cover. NINLILA: Does he just make one copy With what NINLILA: medium? and then they use computers to transfer it to covers? HOST RL Astra: T, If you've seen Sarah Zettel's book Kingdom of Cages, he did that cover. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 T83BIRD: Ahso, Astra. NINLILA: --- 3 NINLILA: --- 4 HOST RL Astra: Also very famouse for pics of dragons. And he loves Godzilla - even got a bit part in the last Godzilla movie :-) NINLILA: --- 5 NINLILA: --- 6 T83BIRD: *Famouse* -- Stuart Little is a *Famouse.* HOST RL Astra: I knew you'd catch that, LOL NINLILA: --- 6 T83BIRD: thx Astra NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: That sounds very complicated and expensive! Okay...I have that follow up NINLILA: from k-vaguely... NINLILA: JaniceMars: k-vaguely: 'would I do something for it' -- essentially, yes. hidden agenda NINLILA: here -- I've got a magazine that would love to NINLILA: have, say, some of your sketches in it NINLILA: zillabob: For me. Not expensive. NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'm assuming K wants to know how to go about getting a price list and how to NINLILA: contact you regarding contracts, etc. NINLILA: zillabob: It depends. What is the magazine? HOST RL Marz: I do a painting-one piece in acrylics. I have a 4x5 inch transparency made. This HOST RL Marz: goes to the publisher. They take it and scan it in and separate it and make the cover design HOST RL Marz: and this all goes to the printer where they print it on a book with usually lithographic means. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: JaniceMars: NFG.ca : NINLILA: JaniceMars: k-vaguely just sent that. OnlineHost: TAMirabile has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! T83BIRD: Hi TAM NINLILA: zillabob: Basically they can go to my site, email me and tell me more about their NINLILA: magazine NINLILA: JaniceMars: k-vaguely: er, that's the website. magazine is NFG HOST RL Astra: Hi ya TAM :-) NINLILA: --- 1 TAMirabile: Hi, Astra! Marz! T! NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay...that sounds like a plan...thanks Bob. NINLILA: JaniceMars: I have another question here from Softpaw. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Softpaw: why so many dinosaurs ? NINLILA: zillabob: Never heard of it..but we can tlak. NINLILA: zillabob: Dinos. I LOVE dinosaurs. Ever since I was about 3. HOST RL Astra: In other words, Bob never grew up :-) NINLILA: JaniceMars: And you've been drawing dinosaurs since then? NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: More or less. I saw the l964 Worlds Fair and Sinclair Oil had this display of NINLILA: life size dinosaurs. Love at first site. NINLILA: --- 1 OnlineHost: OldWolfGaidin has entered the room. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Xero: if he were to do a cover with the characters in the story on the front. NINLILA: Who tells him how things work, the author, or NINLILA: does he simply read it himself? T83BIRD: Hi OWG OldWolfGaidin: Hi, T-bird NINLILA: --- 1 HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! HOST RL Astra: Hiya Wolf :-) NINLILA: --- 2 OldWolfGaidin: Hiya, Astra NINLILA: --- 3 OldWolfGaidin: - - - 1, Ninlila :-) HOST RL Astra: LOL NINLILA: --- 4 HOST RL Astra: NIN's had a bad case of hiccups tonight NINLILA: --- 5 T83BIRD: BTW, Astra, atop my printer sit two *TY* dragons which our older son Andy gave me. NINLILA: zillabob: Works many ways. Usually I get something to read. Even a chapter! But alot of NINLILA: times artists get 'Art Directed'. The publisher NINLILA: will say 'We want this on the cover'. The author sometimes get a say, but, generally I HOST RL Astra: TY? NINLILA: have come to see that as a bad idea. Because NINLILA: authors can write, but are not always good at visualizations. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: T83BIRD: would you please ask Bob what he finds so fascinating about NINLILA: dinosaurs. Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 6] 1/31/2003 10:30 PM T83BIRD: As in Ty Babies, Astra. NINLILA: zillabob: The big problem nowadays is the lack of lead time on covers. HOST RL Astra: Ty Babies? HOST RL Astra: T-Rex? NINLILA: JaniceMars: I know that we asked a similar question earlier, but you do seem to take NINLILA: great care and detail on every scale. T83BIRD: A brand of stuffed dolls and animals, Astra. HOST RL Astra: Shows how much I know, LOL NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: Dinos: they are big, scaly and are just totally cool. They are dragons but they NINLILA: are for real. Were..for real I should say. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: I try. I just did two wraparound covers-24x36 inches in two weeks. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Indeed. And I'm glad you mentioned dragons... HOST RL Astra: You remember Bob from Chicago, TAM? "Everybody say, 'Cooo-oool!'" NINLILA: JaniceMars: I see from your site that you have a book out right now that has received NINLILA: several... T83BIRD: Cooool! NINLILA: JaniceMars: wonderful reviews... NINLILA: zillabob: Dragons...Godzilla...dinosaurs TAMirabile: Coooooo ooooooool! NINLILA: JaniceMars: DRAGONHENGE ...how did that project get started? NINLILA: zillabob: Yeah. DRAGONHENGE. It's a hit, for sure. NINLILA: --- 1 HOST RL Astra: Sigh. I just remember the hair. I was devastated to learn he was taken :-) NINLILA: --- 2 OldWolfGaidin: Cooo-oool! HOST RL Astra: Bob has a web site at www.bobeggleton.com NINLILA: --- 3 NINLILA: JaniceMars: Did the author or the publisher contact you? OldWolfGaidin: Thanks, Astra NINLILA: zillabob: Well, I was drawing and came up with a small piece and the word 'Dragonhenge' NINLILA: just popped out of my mouth. I said NINLILA: 'COOL!' and I told my publisher who loved the name, John Grant my buddy and pal liked NINLILA: the idea and wanted to write it. BAsically it NINLILA: was my idea from the start. I just had no idea who would write it. NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL NINLILA: JaniceMars: Thank you Bob. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: Xero: What things does he dislike about how bookcovers are run, for NINLILA: example, he just made it sound as if he wished NINLILA: the artists had more control. Does he get to sit down and chat with authors, I think NINLILA: that would be helpful, better then some middle NINLILA: man anyway NINLILA: zillabob: It has taken on a life all it's own. Paper Tiger hasn't done a fiction book in NINLILA: about 24 years. Now we are doing the sequel. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Superb! NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: --- 3 HOST RL Astra: I'm still waiting for NIN to learn to count all the way up to 10. NINLILA: --- 4 HOST RL Marz: LOL. Bob's not a production typist so it takes a while. But at least she's working! TAMirabile: hmmmm I wonder if Bob will have any trouble getting the artist to do the cover for the book right :::ducking:::: NINLILA: zillabob: Xero: I just wish publishers had a better lead time. I am a fast painter. NINLILA: But...authors and artists get on well. But sometimes NINLILA: publishers keep them apart as well. It varies. 'Middle Men' are people who have to NINLILA: justify pay checks and, too many chefs....as they NINLILA: say. HOST RL Astra: LOL TAM NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: Deva: I have a question: I'm an artist as well.. just a hobby of mine.. i NINLILA: love drawing with pencil ..but i was wondering if you NINLILA: used mechanical or just a regular pencil..or just anything you can get your hands on at NINLILA: the moment type deal? because i have a NINLILA: favorite mechanical pencil I use all the time for when i draw. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: Deva: good question. I love the fact you do not have to stop and SHARPEN a NINLILA: mechanical pencil! Also, the rubber grips are NINLILA: better on the fingers. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: If I use a wooden pencil...I am grinding it to nothing to get a point all the NINLILA: time. NINLILA: JaniceMars: So you use mechanical pencils as well...none of this sitting around with a NINLILA: pen knife sharpening. NINLILA: JaniceMars: -Sparta-_: How did he develop his art skills? Did he take mostly practice on NINLILA: his own or take many classes? NINLILA: zillabob: In art school they tell you that is what you are SUPPOSED to do. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: zillabob: I have been drawing since I was 18 months old. Alot of practice. I did alot of NINLILA: art classes too. In some cases in college I could NINLILA: have taught them. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Xero: don't regular pencils shade better? or does he use special mechanical NINLILA: pencils? because mine are usualy very NINLILA: rough and hard. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: --- 3 NINLILA: zillabob: Xero: yes, regular ones do shade better. Ebony Pencils are nice for that. I use NINLILA: mechanical pencils to get fine details. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ah! cool! NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: Bob...I think it's probably time to address your name. Godzilla is a big NINLILA: thing in your life... NINLILA: JaniceMars: And I have a question just about that.... NINLILA: JaniceMars: Astra: Got any funny stories about being in the last Godzilla movie, Bob? OnlineHost: DerHexer has entered the room. DerHexer: Hi all T83BIRD: Hi Der HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! NINLILA: --- 1 HOST RL Astra: Hi Der :-) NINLILA: zillabob: Godzilla...oh yes. Ideal Game in l966...my mom bought this and I was in love. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Love at first sight. OnlineHost: OlSkool67 has entered the room. OnlineHost: OlSkool67 has left the room. NINLILA: JaniceMars: So you were in the movie? DerHexer: Sorry, The Redhead just called and I have to go pick her up. Night all OnlineHost: DerHexer has left the room. NINLILA: zillabob: Funny stories: In retrospect yeah. We had to run in 99 dgree heat with 150% NINLILA: humidityJapan's summers make ours look cold NINLILA: AND i had to wear long sleeved clothing!!! T83BIRD: Nite Der NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: Yikes! So they shipped you to Japan to be in the movie? NINLILA: zillabob: We went to Yokohama and to a Sea Paradise park and Godzilla was going to come NINLILA: there and destroy the place so we were NINLILA: evacuated. We had to run in that heat...800 yards the first shot. NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOLOL! OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has entered the room. OnlineHost: Ldsdwd has left the room. T83BIRD: Hi Lds NINLILA: --- 1 Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 6] 1/31/2003 10:45 PM NINLILA: JaniceMars: Bob, now when Astra says the last Godzilla movie, she means that latest, NINLILA: doesn't she? Or is this the last Godzilla NINLILA: movie that will ever be made? NINLILA: zillabob: I think I lost 10 lbs in sweat. Actually I PAID myself to go to Japan to see NINLILA: friends anyway. My friend Shinichi Wakasa is the suit NINLILA: maker for the last film and Godzilla 2000. He invited us to see the actual FX filming. NINLILA: We got yankedinto being 'flee-ers'. NINLILA: --- 1 HOST RL Astra: I doubt if they had to force him, LOL NINLILA: --- 2 TAMirabile: Dragged him out into the street in chains? TAMirabile: Brb NINLILA: zillabob: No, I am SURE GODZILLA X MECHAGODZILLA will not be the last. The 50th NINLILA: annivesary of Godzilla is coming in 2004. OnlineHost: TAMirabile has left the room. HOST RL Astra: LOL T83BIRD: Rice paper chains, TAM. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ah, so you have friends in the film company. That explains it for me. and OldWolfGaidin: ! Gojira wa sugoi! :-) NINLILA: Astra has another question about the movie. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Astra: Did he get/take any souvenirs from the movie? NINLILA: JaniceMars: Ah, so you have friends in the film company. That explains it for me. and NINLILA: Astra has another question about the movie. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Astra: Did he get/take any souvenirs from the movie? NINLILA: zillabob: Astra: Oh indeed: sore feet ;- NINLILA: JaniceMars: Toho is the production company, I assume. NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOLOLOL. A lot of running from Godzilla, I take it. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: Yes, Toho Pictures. Running and more running. They DID feed us a lunch box. NINLILA: zillabob: We did 8 hours of running/standing around. 5 seconds of it showed up on film. HOST RL Astra: Ack NINLILA: JaniceMars: This must have been a dream come true Bob. Has/will the film be released NINLILA: here in the states? NINLILA: zillabob: On the souvenirs: I do own some Godzilla skin. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Coooooool. HOST RL Astra: LOLOL HOST RL Astra: JD would be sooo jealous NINLILA: --- 1 T83BIRD: LOL, Astra. He would indeed. NINLILA: --- 2 NINLILA: zillabob: Hopefully. They released Godzilla 2000 almost 3 years ago. Toho makes one a NINLILA: year. They did GODZILLA X MEGAGUIRUS in NINLILA: 2001, GODZILLAMOTHRA,KING GHIDORAH: BATTLE ON FIRE in 2002 and GODZILLA X MECHAG in NINLILA: 2003. HOST RL Astra: Lordy NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: So Godzilla X Mechag should be available soon if not now. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: Bob...I have a question here about mechanical pencils ... getting back to the NINLILA: mechanics of art.... NINLILA: JaniceMars: -Sparta-_: With mechanical pencils, dont your leads break when drawing? When HOST RL Astra: I'm pretty sure all the Godzilla movies are straight to video now. NINLILA: im in shcool drawing in my free time, NINLILA: When I break a lead, the color of my writing changes completely. Doesn't that mess you NINLILA: up, by having your picture change color like NINLILA: that? NINLILA: zillabob: Not for awhile. Thing is: thise films take only 6 Million $$ to make. This one NINLILA: cost that and made $15. NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: JaniceMars: It's just a matter of getting to know your tools, isn't it Bob? Practice, NINLILA: practice, practice? OldWolfGaidin: Wasn't the last American theatrical release Godzilla 1985? NINLILA: JaniceMars: It's just a matter of getting to know your tools, isn't it Bob? Practice, NINLILA: practice, practice? HOST RL Astra: Is the Matthew Broderick on that old? HOST RL Astra: on- one NINLILA: JaniceMars: It's just a matter of getting to know your tools, isn't it Bob? Practice, NINLILA: practice, practice? NINLILA: JaniceMars: It's just a matter of getting to know your tools, isn't it Bob? Practice, NINLILA: practice, practice? HOST RL Astra: Where Godzilla lays eggs and wrecks NYC? T83BIRD: NIN is loopy. OldWolfGaidin: No, Astra, Godzilla '85 was the color one with Raymond Burr. NINLILA: --- 1 OldWolfGaidin: I don't consider the American version to be a Godzilla movie. :-p HOST RL Astra: LOL OnlineHost: TAMirabile has entered the room. NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOL! HOST RL Astra: re's TAM TAMirabile: Thanks, Astra NINLILA: JaniceMars: Do you use models? T83BIRD: wb TAM NINLILA: zillabob: I wish I could get a dragon to convey emotion. If I could FIND a dragon...now.. NINLILA: zillabob: The eyes in all things convey emotions. NINLILA: JaniceMars: LOLOL...okay that leads into another question... HOST RL Astra: A dragon that smiles??? LOL NINLILA: JaniceMars: Xero: Umm, what does he consider to be the hardest thing to draw. Like, all NINLILA: those little scales, eyes, or hair..or other? OldWolfGaidin: ! Genengineers could cook up a dragon :-) TAMirabile: Trot out a virgin and see if you can get hungry :) NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: Sometimes I use models for lighting. Human models don't impress me because they NINLILA: are too perfect. I like odd looking NINLILA: things... NINLILA: zillabob: Scales is pretty tough to draw... NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: I usually start with the eyes...they are the window to the soul. NINLILA: JaniceMars: But at this point in your career there is no one detail that still gives you NINLILA: the yips? T83BIRD: Godzilla has a soul? NINLILA: zillabob: What is 'the yips'? HOST RL Astra: LOL T T83BIRD: thx Astra NINLILA: zillabob: What is 'the yips'? OldWolfGaidin: Good question, T-bird. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Like when I typo when I'm trying desperately not to typo. NINLILA: JaniceMars: lol. OldWolfGaidin: I think of Godzilla as a force of nature. T83BIRD: thx OWG NINLILA: JaniceMars: Folks...we only have a couple of minutes with Bob left, and I have a couple NINLILA: of questions for him... NINLILA: --- 1 NINLILA: zillabob: Yeah, paint brushes loaded with paint. The chance the end with the paint on the NINLILA: brush will hit the floor is proportional to the NINLILA: cost of the carpet. NINLILA: JaniceMars: So I'm going to rush right on pell mell here Bob. OldWolfGaidin: What do NINLILA: you think of the American Godzilla movie? NINLILA: --- 1 OnlineHost: Araiused has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. T83BIRD: Heyla Ara HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! HOST RL Astra: Hi Ara NINLILA: --- 2 Araiused: Hmm, nobody was in Cybling... NINLILA: --- 2 OldWolfGaidin: Evening, Ara OnlineHost: RowrBasil has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: Um, they're there right now, Ara Araiused: Hi, Rowr T83BIRD: Hi Rowr HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! NINLILA: --- 1 HOST RL Astra: Hi Rowr OnlineHost: J Solusar has entered the room. OnlineHost: RowrBasil has left the room. T83BIRD: Hi JS HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. Araiused: Re's J :) HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! HOST RL Astra: Hi JS T83BIRD: bye Rowr NINLILA: JaniceMars: And our final question of the night. k-vaguely: has he ever gone on a NINLILA: dinosaur dig? NINLILA: zillabob: If their point was to make us cheer on Godzilla's death, they failed. I wanted NINLILA: him to escape. Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 8] 1/31/2003 11:00 PM J Solusar: Ara! Fancy meeting you here! NINLILA: --- 1 Araiused: Where have you been, J?? :)P NINLILA: zillabob: Dino digs. I would love to at some time. Go to Montana, the badlands...would NINLILA: love to go. HOST RL Astra: Better than a plain meeting, JS. NINLILA: --- 1 OldWolfGaidin: Evening, Solusar :-) J Solusar: Here, there, ya know, kinda like hosre-poopy! OnlineHost: Athanor IX has entered the room. Athanor IX: Hi. Araiused: Hi, Ath HOST RL Astra: Welcome to the O*W*C - tonight we are interviewing artist Bob Eggleton. HOST RL Astra: This chat is moderated from 10 to 11. Bob cannot see your chat. HOST RL Astra: If you have a question for Bob, please IM it to Astra. Thank you! J Solusar: horse* Araiused: Hey, J S T83BIRD: Hi Ath OldWolfGaidin: Hi, Ath NINLILA: JaniceMars: Well who knows... perhaps some paleontologists sp NINLILA: JaniceMars: will read the log. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Folks...I promised Bob we'd only take him away from his easel... HOST RL Astra: Hi Ath. Interview is almost over. NINLILA: JaniceMars: for an hour tonight...but it's been a great hour! NINLILA: zillabob: We'll see. NEVER thought I would get to be in a Godzilla film did I? T83BIRD: BTW, Astra, did you by any chance read my last remark in the IM I sent you? HOST RL Astra: Yes T. T83BIRD: Ok. Just wondered. NINLILA: zillabob: Fantastic. Thanks one and all. We'll do it again! NINLILA: JaniceMars: I'm going to take moderation off now so you can all say goodnight to Bob and NINLILA: thank him... NINLILA: JaniceMars: for coming out and joining us! Araiused: Goodnight, Bob T83BIRD: Thanks Bob NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay...Moderation is off. NINLILA: Xero: Good Night, Hope I hear when you come back. Umm, Happy Painting? _ NINLILA: JaniceMars: ::: cooo-oool applause coming from the OWC ::: NINLILA: k-vaguely: the crowd roars THaNk YOu! = NINLILA: zillabob: COOOOOOOL!!!! Hair flip! NINLILA: JaniceMars: T83 says thanks Bob! NINLILA: JaniceMars: lolololololololol TAMirabile: Good night, Bob and Thanks! OldWolfGaidin: Thanks for chatting, Bob. :-) NINLILA: zillabob: No problem. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Araiused: Goodnight, Bob NINLILA: JaniceMars: T83BIRD: Thanks Bob TAMirabile: Coooooool!! NINLILA: Softpaw: goodnight and thank you for takign the time to talk to us NINLILA: zillabob: Anytime good people. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Everyone, I want to remind you that Bob has several books for sale... OldWolfGaidin: ::gives a Godzilla roar:: :-) NINLILA: JaniceMars: via Amazon.com at extremely reasonable prices OnlineHost: PaulMountain1 has entered the room. Araiused: I got one of his books Araiused: Hi, Paul! HOST RL Astra: www.bobeggleton.com OnlineHost: STARMOM79 has entered the room. NINLILA: zillabob: www.bobeggleton.com is the site. Take you right to'em, NINLILA: JaniceMars: DRAGONHENGE is only the most recent... PaulMountain1: Hi all HOST RL Astra: PaulMountain1! Pull up a beanbag and make yourself HOST RL Astra: comfortable in the Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! T83BIRD: Hi PM STARMOM79: Hello HOST RL Astra: Yo, STARMOM79! You've found the Araiused: LTNS, STAR HOST RL Astra: Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! STARMOM79: Hi, Astra, ltns T83BIRD: Hi STAR OldWolfGaidin: 'lo, Starmom :-) STARMOM79: LOL, Ara. Hi, T STARMOM79: Hi, OWG TAMirabile: back J Solusar: Wb Tam! TAMirabile: Hi, Ara! Ath! J S! OWG! Paul! STAR! HOST RL Astra: TAM, do you have Zettel's Kingdom of Cages? Eggleton did the cover for that OldWolfGaidin: Hi, Tam TAMirabile: Thanks, J S T83BIRD: ::::checking swiss cheese memory -- STAR, was it you asked if I'd read Goonan story, "Sunflowers"? T83BIRD: wb TAM STARMOM79: Yes TAMirabile: I do have it hadn't realized that was his :) HOST RL Astra: I remember Sarah hopping around at some con, when she found out he was gonna do the cover, LOL T83BIRD: ::::read it today:::::is very profound and (agreed) sad story::::: TAMirabile: Has anyone read any of Zettel's fantasy? HOST RL Astra: Not yet. I guess there's more money in fantasy :/ OldWolfGaidin: I havne't, Tam T83BIRD: nope TAM STARMOM79: At least it didn't scare me as much as Blood Music. I have to read the novelization of that. Supposed to be more upbeat NINLILA: zillabob: All the rest are still in print! NINLILA: JaniceMars: And you have to see the cover of Star Wars Episode I: Watch Out, Jar Jar! NINLILA: Star Wars Storybooks NINLILA: JaniceMars: Superb! NINLILA: zillabob: Long story on that. Later. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Okay. Thanks again Bob! NINLILA: JaniceMars: TAMirabile: Coooooool!! NINLILA: zillabob: See ya round the cosmos! NINLILA: Theca: keep sending your views of the cosmos back to us NINLILA: zillabob: You betcha Theca. NINLILA: Xero: or your drawings of them ; NINLILA: zillabob: Okay, I'm diving out...thanks again! NINLILA: Xero: Thank you is more like it. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Night! NINLILA: Xero: Z.Z NINLILA: zillabob: Night..zzzz. me too. NINLILA: JaniceMars: Folks...thanks so much for joining us for the chat tonight and all the great NINLILA: questions. NINLILA: --- 1 HOST RL Astra: Time for NIN to go to bed. :-) TAMirabile: nite nite NIN T83BIRD: afk OldWolfGaidin: - - - 1, Nin :-) HOST RL Astra: Want the topics ahead of schedule? Subscribe to the Chat-Topic Guide in our forum's listbox and follow the instructions. Or e-mail JNRChip to receive the once-a-week mailer! NINLILA: 8^P at Old Wolf HOST RL Astra: LOLOL Araiused: --------2, NIN OldWolfGaidin: ::chuckles:: HOST RL Astra: So, what have I missed in here this week? Any profound SF statements? :-) OnlineHost: GRENDALS1 has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: Ahoy, GRENDALS1! Welcome to the HOST RL Astra: Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: Belly up to the bar and sing along ... GRENDALS1: Howdy Folks HOST RL Astra: o/~ One more for the road ... o/~ HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! Araiused: The building of a shoe (space) ship, Astra :) Araiused: Hi, GREN! TAMirabile: Hi, GREN! STARMOM79: Hi, Gren HOST RL Astra: Wouldn't work with my shoes. I wear sandals, LOL TAMirabile: hmmmmm sandalship forcefield for top? OldWolfGaidin: Howdy, Gren GRENDALS1: Hi Star, J, Atn, Arai, gaiden TAM!! T8, Nin, Marz & Astra & interesting name Paul STARMOM79: the soles are pretty thick and we could put stuff in the straps. They aren't built too scale, ya know HOST RL Astra: See thru dome, TAM. Sounds good to me. PaulMountain1: Thanks happens to be the real one GRENDALS1: Thats why I Asked, Wouldnt happen to be from the east coast? STARMOM79: Cool! I've been trying to work it out, lol PaulMountain1: No minnesota J Solusar: Hiya Gren! HOST RL Astra: Good SF fan base in MN. GRENDALS1: albiet a cold fan base TAMirabile: Mini con TAMirabile: Minie? HOST RL Astra: No e T83BIRD: > Athanor IX: Minie was known for balls, not cons. HOST RL Astra: We talk about fan bases and human stock. It always comes around to food :-) STARMOM79: E was here daily for a while, now no e Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 12] 1/31/2003 11:15 PM TAMirabile: LOL Ath STARMOM79: He was a tough guy, Ath? GRENDALS1: lolastra Athanor IX: Probably not, as he was a Frenchman. STARMOM79: Yopu are such a straight man Araiused: Inny Minie Mooo STARMOM79: Costello would have a field day GRENDALS1: 1/8 french and hides it well TAMirabile: Doesn't just about everything come down to food? Araiused: brb HOST RL Astra: OK. SF question. If y'all had to choose an author GoH for an upcoming con, who would you choose? Living only. :-) PaulMountain1: Minnesota...home to lois McMaster Bujold TAMirabile: The Consuite at Confusion roasted a whole pig STARMOM79: Zyxt had GoH? GRENDALS1: sheifield GRENDALS1: charls STARMOM79: Sheffield is dead, Gren T83BIRD: bak briefly OldWolfGaidin: James P. Hogan, perhaps? GRENDALS1: Dang, therre went another one, I guess Ill stop looking fer new books GRENDALS1: yeah JPH HOST RL Astra: Think he's been ignored, Wolf? OldWolfGaidin: I haven't heard of him being a GoH, recently. STARMOM79: LeGuin, Niven, Pohl GRENDALS1: << re-reading Hogans Giants series HOST RL Astra: Wasn't it LeGuin who was just made a Grand Master? TAMirabile: Yup OldWolfGaidin: Yes. They're telling her to quit writing. ;-) HOST RL Astra: I think Niven and Pohl have had the honor before. Dunno about LeGuin OldWolfGaidin: I'll be doing that soon, myself, Gren. T83BIRD: Greg Bear (M) Nancy Kress (F) STARMOM79: Isn't Norton a Grand Master? HOST RL Astra: Not sure, STAR TAMirabile: I'm pretty sure GRENDALS1: first book was had realy greqat twisted in it OnlineHost: SciFiDog has entered the room. T83BIRD: Hi Sci OldWolfGaidin: I saw it recently in the news at the Locus site, Astra, about LeGuin. SciFiDog: woof J Solusar: Hiya Dog! GRENDALS1: great twists even HOST RL Astra: SciFiDog! Welcome to the Other *Worlds* HOST RL Astra: Cafe Science Fiction chat room! Jump in the HOST RL Astra: pool, cool off your brain, and join the chat! HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... OldWolfGaidin: Woof-woof, Dog :-) HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! STARMOM79: Cherryh? OnlineHost: Anthonytd103 has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: CJC was GoH at Worldcon 98 Baltimore T83BIRD: Hi Anthony HOST RL Astra: Hello, Anthonytd103! You've found the HOST RL Astra: Other *Worlds* Cafe! Grab a cold one, or HOST RL Astra: a warm one, and tell us what you think! SciFiDog: :-) what about LeGuin, again?? HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! Athanor IX: Andre Norton is a Grand Master. HOST RL Astra: Sci, we're choosing a GoH and telling why STARMOM79: Oh, well I don't know who was or wasn't at past cons, only been to one so far Athanor IX: The list is here: TAMirabile: Norton got the award in 1084 GRENDALS1: brb Athanor IX: http://www.sfwa.org/awards/grand.htm HOST RL Astra: TAM, I knew she was old, but ... STARMOM79: Wow! SciFiDog: LOL OnlineHost: Anthonytd103 has left the room. OnlineHost: GRENDALS1 has left the room. STARMOM79: 918 years ago! T83BIRD: Hey GREN TAMirabile: owowowowow didn't know they were giving them that far back, huh? PaulMountain1: That is truly amazing! TAMirabile: typo of the week ******1984****** OK? PaulMountain1: LOLOL HOST RL Astra: LOL SciFiDog: LeGuin, IMO, is better than Norton by far. OnlineHost: Charley Gordon has entered the room. STARMOM79: No, I think last night's Jan 24th macro and Drg"s reply were T83BIRD: Hi Charley HOST RL Astra: Charley Gordon! Pull up a beanbag and make yourself HOST RL Astra: comfortable in the Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! STARMOM79: Hi, Charley TAMirabile: :) STAR OldWolfGaidin: ::chuckles:: STARMOM79: Be there or be square TAMirabile: LOL T83BIRD: afk again Charley Gordon: hi charley TAMirabile: Hi, Charley! SciFiDog: hi CG OnlineHost: GRENDALS1 has entered the room. GRENDALS1: back TAMirabile: wb GREN STARMOM79: bad lag! bad, bad GRENDALS1: tanks HOST RL Astra: re's GREN :-) Araiused: bak HOST RL Astra: *** HOST RL Astra: Tomorrow night in SF General, 9 PM to 11 PM ET HOST RL Astra: *** HOST RL Astra: Motorized Tie Racks? Filtered Cigarettes? Non-Alcoholic Beer? HOST RL Astra: Some inventions just leave you standing in the abyss scratching your HOST RL Astra: head. What equally dubious inventions have SF offered to readers? HOST RL Astra: Join HOST RL Mystik as SF General takes a look at "Questionable HOST RL Astra: Inventions!" HOST RL Astra: *** HOST RL Astra: *** HOST RL Astra: Tomorrow night in the O*W*C, 10 PM to 12 AM ET HOST RL Astra: *** Araiused: Say hi, Charley HOST RL Astra: Fiction about our past's pioneers and explorers tends to be HOST RL Astra: romanticised, and quietly overlooks the hardships, privation, and HOST RL Astra: dangers of their "adventures." What will our future pioneers face? HOST RL Astra: Will an enviro-dome on the Martian frontier someday seem as quaint HOST RL Astra: and romantic as a sod house on the prairie? Join HOST RL Chip for HOST RL Astra: a visit to the Little Dome on the Plains! HOST RL Astra: *** TAMirabile: Love the Papyrus font you get to write HUGE if you want to with no extra effort SciFiDog: huge HOST RL Astra: Papyrus font? All is ariel to my eyes :-) OnlineHost: GRENDALS1 has left the room. HOST RL Astra: Poor GREN ;-/ TAMirabile: heho/~ Dome, dome on the plains, where the cold and the sandstorms play...... o/~ SciFiDog: LOL TAMirabile: You must not have papyrus on your computer PaulMountain1: I have dust on my computer STARMOM79: Doesn't it come standard? Araiused: Me too, Paul HOST RL Astra: I use PT to change it all to ariel during chat, TAM SciFiDog: My only font that begins with P. TAMirabile: Didn't on this one, STAR OnlineHost: KNITEMARE87 has entered the room. STARMOM79: I have graham crackers inb the keyboard T83BIRD: Hi KNITE HOST RL Astra: Yo, KNITEMARE87! You've found the HOST RL Astra: Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! TAMirabile: I forgot that you did that, Astra STARMOM79: It did on mine. I'm gonna look for more interesting stuff KNITEMARE87: Wow, crowded PaulMountain1: Star, my kids do that to STARMOM79: this is Tempus sans ITC KNITEMARE87: We need to get Feintuch in here for an interview T83BIRD: bak to say thanks to Astra and nite to all the rest be well bye STARMOM79: wingdings HOST RL Astra: I'll suggest that, Knite. TAMirabile: <---what STAR said KNITEMARE87: Mom is speaking in tounges STARMOM79: I didn't know I had that SciFiDog: nite t8 HOST RL Astra: Night T! TAMirabile: Night, T J Solusar: Take care T! STARMOM79: Nite T SciFiDog: nite t8 STARMOM79: What do you do with it? KNITEMARE87: Night bird TAMirabile: make macros of hugs and things OnlineHost: T83BIRD has left the room. STARMOM79: I'll have to play around with it some day TAMirabile: >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< TAMirabile: >^..^< ((STAR)) >^..^< TAMirabile: >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< OldWolfGaidin: Wingdings are used when you need to put symbols into a text. SciFiDog: its a wingding play area... go to word.. and type each letter and numer... see what you got. STARMOM79: I'm just so busy nowadays, sleeping, watching TV, reading want ads Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 13] 1/31/2003 11:30 PM TAMirabile: simple one just all over the place SciFiDog: Tam... cat scratch fever... HOST RL Astra: Oy, Sci! STARMOM79: I'll have to make a list of what they are. Maybe I'll wite you a coded message TAMirabile: All you need to do to decode is just change back to arial STARMOM79: Hi, Sci TAMirabile: Hi, Sci! HOST RL Astra: What ... you guys only talk when there's a topic to ignore??? STARMOM79: Well, how cryptic is that? TAMirabile: LOL SciFiDog: Asta... ROTFL! OnlineHost: KWB67 has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: Ahoy, KWB67! Welcome to the HOST RL Astra: Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: Belly up to the bar and sing along ... HOST RL Astra: o/~ One more for the road ... o/~ HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! Araiused: Hi, KW TAMirabile: Isn't that what we're supposed to do? SciFiDog: hi KB J Solusar: Hiya KW! KWB67: Hello Room KNITEMARE87: Hi KW KWB67: Call me Kev. HOST RL Astra: Should I just go watch Stargate, and let y'all swing from the chandeliers? :-) STARMOM79: One of the categories I wanted Zyxt to consider in the Heinlein/Hubbard deathmatch was best Chinese food menu in a SF book and he wouldn't TAMirabile: Hey!!!! nice chandeliers are they new? STARMOM79: Hi, KW HOST RL Astra: SF books have menus?? SciFiDog: LOLO star TAMirabile: LOL STAR STARMOM79: No, you have to monitor us KNITEMARE87: I finally saw LotR HOST RL Astra: ::: bangs STAR over the head with a monitor ::: KNITEMARE87: I got the special edition VHS KWB67: Any long-time fans in here? (I guess that's a polite way to ask if anyone is as old as I am...) Araiused: LOLOL, Astra STARMOM79: Oow! SciFiDog: Knite... behind the times... LOL KNITEMARE87: Lots, KW NINLILA: Taking off now! Thanks Astra! HOST RL Astra: Sure, KW ... favorite authors? STARMOM79: We have chatters from 17 to 71 in here Araiused: Nite, NIN TAMirabile: KWB there are at least two as old as you are but we don't do age HOST RL Astra: Night NINny :-) OnlineHost: NINLILA has left the room. TAMirabile: Night NIN SciFiDog: Kev.. yes... there are some oldies but goodies that hang here. KWB67: That's good. You have to ask. Room names don't always mean what they say. STARMOM79: I'm only 18, myselfO:-) HOST RL Astra: ROFL TAMirabile: precocious obviously Araiused: Sweet 18, STAR STARMOM79: What's so funny? SciFiDog: star means in dog years... Araiused: LOLOL KNITEMARE87: That would make her about 7, dog KWB67: I have a question for the room if I can pick everyone's brain... KNITEMARE87: Go ahead KW STARMOM79: brain? HOST RL Astra: Shoot, KW KNITEMARE87: Our brains need picking SciFiDog: like a sweater... Charley Gordon: operashun time again. Athanor IX: "Brain? Brain? What is Brain?" HOST RL Astra: Best time to ask questions in open chat. Will give us something to pick at. KWB67: I am trying to find the name and/or author of a book I read several years ago (okay, about 20 years ago) SciFiDog: c'mon, Kev! Araiused: Age 7 in dog years is one month TAMirabile: not enough information STARMOM79: what was it about? SciFiDog: details please... STARMOM79: 42 HOST RL Astra: Give him time to type, guys! OldWolfGaidin: lol Ath TAMirabile: LOL STAR Hitchhikers OldWolfGaidin: When you pick my brain, watch out for brain boogers. :-) Araiused: ::: fingers poised above keyboard ::: HOST RL Astra: ::: moves away from Wolf ::: TAMirabile: eeeewwwww OWG I thought you were cured Charley Gordon: I remeber that book, KW. STARMOM79: OWG, what happened to your New Year resolution to get rid of those OldWolfGaidin: lol STARMOM79: Must be War and Reace SciFiDog: ( Thats what we get for our new RL category. :-D ) STARMOM79: Peace TAMirabile: I can name that book in one note heh KWB67: The basic story is this... A school/college/rite of passage kind of thing involving a window/door to another world. Somehow the window/door gets cut off and a group is stranded there and they have to make do on their own. HOST RL Astra: Hoka! TAMirabile: Tunnel in the Sky TAMirabile: RAH HOST RL Astra: KW - Joel Rosenberg's Flame series? SciFiDog: thats not a book... its a subgenre! LOL HOST RL Astra: College students who like D&D? KWB67: probably written '70-'75??? TAMirabile: KW it has the phrase Beware the Stobor in it? J Solusar: Guardians of the Flame? TAMirabile: Hello? can anybody see me? KNITEMARE87: Once, after an interesting night i thought my closet had those properties OldWolfGaidin: I can, Tam J Solusar: I can Tam. SciFiDog: yes Tam.. its lagadelic for all. HOST RL Astra: Sounds like first book from Rosenberg ... Sleeping Dragons, I think KWB67: not sure about the phrase. but it was definitely written pre-'7575 OnlineHost: STARMOM79 has left the room. OnlineHost: STARMOM79 has entered the room. TAMirabile: Oh I wondered It's the RAH book HOST RL Astra: re's STAR TAMirabile: WB STAR SciFiDog: two linear time typoes tonite. :-) HOST RL Astra: Not Rosenberg then. That was written in the 80's OldWolfGaidin: Hm...pre-75. It was most likely science fiction, since fantasy didn't take off until '79. STARMOM79: It sounds like Tunnel in the SDKy but that was written inb 1945 STARMOM79: 1955 TAMirabile: KW did one of the kids tape a knife to his leg? HOST RL Astra: Heck, it could also be Farnham's Freehold by RAH STARMOM79: No! TAMirabile: I think that's what it is, STAR HOST RL Astra: STARMOM79: That stunk OnlineHost: KNITEMARE87 has left the room. TAMirabile: That was not a Rite of Passage OnlineHost: KNITEMARE87 has entered the room. HOST RL Astra: re's Knite KWB67: If I had to give a better description I would say "23rd century Lord of the Flies" KNITEMARE87: i hit the people connection button =( STARMOM79: It wasn't a college kid thing, it was a family oin a bunker during "the big one" and they were slaves KWB67: "23rd Century Lord of th Flies" PaulMountain1: An unintended exile? TAMirabile: These kids had to pass this to graduate. They expected it to be a month but it was months High school STARMOM79: If you read the summary on line, it sounds just like what Kev described KWB67: Soundf like the one. TAMirabile: yup KWB67: Great. TAMirabile: They wound up with a leader and a camp and lost a lot of people to a migration of animals HOST RL Astra: Got another one you're looking for? LOL Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 13] 1/31/2003 11:45 PM KWB67: My tewacher read that book to us every day for the whole year when I was in 4th or 5th grade. I have never forgotten it but have never remembered the name. SciFiDog: KW... cool teacher! KWB67: Very TAMirabile: What a great teacher HOST RL Astra: Head for your library, and go look at Robert Heinlein's books :-) STARMOM79: Mine read Uncle Wiggley TAMirabile: KW do you read Science Fiction now? SciFiDog: or... Octavia Butler... :-D KWB67: I read everything now...but lots of science fiction TAMirabile: Mine just held boring reading groups and sent me to the library HOST RL Astra: You found the right room, KW. Your reading list will grow if you hang around here. SciFiDog: welcome Kev... you are officially adopted. Come back every night. TAMirabile: Octavia Butler to 4th and 5th graders? KWB67: I've been on a Phillip K. Dick frenzy for a while. Just his short stories. OnlineHost: Dreamerangel726 has entered the room. TAMirabile: I can only tak so much PKD at a time SciFiDog: LOL Tam... wouldn't that be scary??? LOL SciFiDog: and cool. HOST RL Astra: Ahoy, Dreamerangel726! Welcome to the HOST RL Astra: Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: Belly up to the bar and sing along ... HOST RL Astra: o/~ One more for the road ... o/~ HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! KNITEMARE87: KW- have you read "Do androids dream of electric sheep" yet TAMirabile: LOL Yeah Sci OnlineHost: Dreamerangel726 has left the room. KWB67: I haven't run across the book yet. Still on his shorts. KNITEMARE87: Its one of his good ones OldWolfGaidin: Neat, KW. I've become more interested in Phillip K. Dick, recently. KNITEMARE87: PKD went off the deep end in his later years STARMOM79: Everybody is a straight man around here KWB67: I've watched Blade Runner about a thousand times. LOL Does that count? KNITEMARE87: The book is differant OnlineHost: BLR WIZ has entered the room. BLR WIZ: Hi BLR WIZ: All HOST RL Astra: Hello, BLR WIZ! You've found the HOST RL Astra: Other *Worlds* Cafe! Grab a cold one, or HOST RL Astra: a warm one, and tell us what you think! HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... SciFiDog: LOL HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! TAMirabile: Hi, BLR! Araiused: Hi, BLR STARMOM79: Hi, Blr J Solusar: Hiya Wiz! BLR WIZ: What I think? If I told you it would be a TOS vilation HOST RL Astra: Aha. I thought JS fell asleep :-) OnlineHost: RAWoodward has entered the room. KWB67: I just read the short story that "Imposter" (with Gary Siniese) was based on. It was a good story. HOST RL Astra: RAWoodward! Pull up a beanbag and make yourself HOST RL Astra: comfortable in the Other *Worlds* Cafe! HOST RL Astra: The Eggleton interview is over, so ... HOST RL Astra: Tonight's topic is the Open Chat! SciFiDog: hi Blr.. and RAW TAMirabile: Hi, RAW! J Solusar: Just relaxing, Astra. KNITEMARE87: Hi wiz and wood OldWolfGaidin: Evening, BLR HOST RL Astra: KW - that was a PKD story? Charley Gordon: The short happy life of the brown oxford. Roog. Impostor. Beyond lies the Wub. Charley Gordon: The Ant. STARMOM79: Hi, RAW HOST RL Astra: <- doesn't go to the movies KWB67: Yes. Titled "Imposter" Charley Gordon: The Father-thing. HOST RL Astra: Figgy made me read Roog and Wub at Philly. BLR WIZ: Astra? Then do you make the movies come to you? RAWoodward: I am running late today; won't be saying very much Charley Gordon: Figgy? HOST RL Astra: Yup, BLR. Called Dish Satelite :-) HOST RL Astra: Fijagdh, Charley. Charley Gordon: Oh. BLR WIZ: There are some movies that should be seen on the big screen Astra. HOST RL Astra: What book was the 'mother-thing in? RAH book .... spacesuit? STARMOM79: Have Space SUit Will Travel BLR WIZ: Have SpaceSuit, Will Travel KNITEMARE87: Have SPacesuit, Will Travel HOST RL Astra: Proof my brain is still working, LOL RAWoodward: Something of a misnomer, she was really the Nanny-Thing SciFiDog: Kev.. PKDick has been popular in movies since Blade Runner. :-) HOST RL Marz: Is there a guy named Charley over here? HOST RL Marz: lolol KNITEMARE87: What othe rmovies have been based on PKD books? Charley Gordon: hi charley HOST RL Marz: Screamers? KNITEMARE87: O am not a big PKD fan, so i cant tell HOST RL Marz: LOL KNITEMARE87: o=I HOST RL Astra: Marz! I thought you'd faded away! STARMOM79: Speaking of movies, did someone say they were making a movie from Lee's "Siulver Metal Lover?" HOST RL Marz: The chatter just stopped next door STARMOM79: Silver Athanor IX: Oh god please no. Athanor IX: Keep the hacks away from Lee, please. J Solusar: Ok, I'm off the dreamland. take care all. HOST RL Marz: Was talking with this one interesting guy. KNITEMARE87: Night J TAMirabile: Night, J S! STARMOM79: I can't see how they could do that and not make a mess of it. If they have to HOST RL Astra: Night JS ;-) OldWolfGaidin: Night, Solusar OnlineHost: J Solusar has left the room. STARMOM79: make a movie, The Electric Forest would be better HOST RL Marz: And with the other folks who are artists. SciFiDog: no time left... see you all tomorrow, same bat 10 EST, same bat channel Athanor IX: Aren't there any Piers Anthony books they can trash instead? STARMOM79: Nite, JS HOST RL Astra: Night Sci :-) HOST RL Astra: LOL Ath! HOST RL Marz: Sorry...I apologize for ignoring/lurking. TAMirabile: Night, Sci! OnlineHost: SciFiDog has left the room. KNITEMARE87: Has anyone here read Feintuch's fantasy? STARMOM79: Who knows what lurks at the fringe of chats? HOST RL Marz: ::::Bad Marz, bad bad Marz::: HOST RL Astra: Feintuch writes fantasy?? TAMirabile: We needed you, Marz! Astra was accusing us of talking just because we had no topic to ignore. HOST RL Marz: I'm smacking myself about the head and shoulders with a large trout e'en as we chat. Charley Gordon: Feynman's Fantasy, maybe. HOST RL Astra: Folk of the Fringe, STAR :-) HOST RL Marz: LOL, Tam. I'm afraid that was probably an accurate accusation on her part. HOST RL Astra: Feintuch does military SF. That's all I've ever seen TAMirabile: Awwww Marz ya think? HOST RL Marz: LOL, I think. KNITEMARE87: He wrote two fantasy books, they were pretty good BLR WIZ: Thx for the chat. Night All. HOST RL Astra: Want the topics ahead of schedule? Subscribe to the Chat-Topic Guide in our forum's listbox and follow the instructions. Or e-mail JNRChip to receive the once-a-week mailer! OnlineHost: BLR WIZ has left the room. HOST RL Marz: Nite Wiz. STARMOM79: Nite, Blr HOST RL Astra: Night BLR! HOST RL Astra: Thanks for joining me tonight everyone! HOST RL Astra: Goodnight modem! HOST RL Astra: Goodnight screen! HOST RL Astra: Goodnight websites still unseen! HOST RL Astra: Remember, if you have any problems, go to Keyword NOTIFY AOL. HOST RL Astra: Good night, all! Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 12] 2/1/2003 12:00 AM Log Entry: Other Worlds SF Chat [Members - 12] 2/1/2003 12:00 AM